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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6041 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am

kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:49 am


I do not see an answer to this question in your answer to this question.
Macca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.

But they didn't understand the full implications.

BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.

I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
HR could have easily set up a signal with his teammates and told us that they were scum too, since they probed them.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6042 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:40 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:13 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:12 am
If the Aliens did use their kill on Damo and I do see the points for why they may just rb Damo, they would probably need to tree stump or vannillasize Damo. Unless they are hoping mafia kill him.
^ scum
^ scum

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6043 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:41 am

Macca573 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am
celaph wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:29 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:25 am


Correct, although from what I've heard so far there's a significantly better reason for celaph than Macca.
This might be true, but I know one of these is definitely town and it's not Macca.
Strange, because I have the opposite opinion.
I disagree with both of you

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6044 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:42 am

kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:40 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:13 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:12 am
If the Aliens did use their kill on Damo and I do see the points for why they may just rb Damo, they would probably need to tree stump or vannillasize Damo. Unless they are hoping mafia kill him.
^ scum
^ scum
Go read Donny. Since you seem to be more interested in reads. Tell me he isn't glomming on. Trying to gain credit and pushes without actually reading. He isn't ingratiating without questioning.

Yes, I have a lot of mech reads. It's a mechy game. But of the style reads, Donny tops the list.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6045 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:42 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 am
So far, after reading Brain, Bunny, kgray, ghug, and Bona over, seems like
a) there's a bunch of role stuff that's pissing me off because some of you seem to be running some permutations ...and

b) Macca or Celaph might be D4 kills?
Macca should not be on the table based solely on the RB thing.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6046 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:44 am

Donny Dude wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 am
Looking at that other macca scum game from m49, Macca likes to storytell theories to target someone and prefers to posts reads as a large list. Another thing there is that he fakeclaimed like 3 times.
It does not seem like he has posted super large posts this game targeting specific people at first glance.
They, Donny. They.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6047 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:45 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:29 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:27 am

Bunny's theory is that Macca performs NK, doc saves damo, aliens NK damo, aliens RB Macca. It is functional, but complex and imo significantly less likely than the alternative.
but this doesn't implicate macca? im confused
Everything bob (and others) have said is true. This theory requires the assumption that the aliens tried to kill damo.

But if that is correct, then where was the other NK?
Could have also been killing damo.

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#6048 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:46 am

kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:45 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:29 am

but this doesn't implicate macca? im confused
Everything bob (and others) have said is true. This theory requires the assumption that the aliens tried to kill damo.

But if that is correct, then where was the other NK?
Could have also been killing damo.
yes, that's true.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6049 Post by TheMadMonarch » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:48 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 am


Macca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.

But they didn't understand the full implications.

BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.

I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
HR could have easily set up a signal with his teammates and told us that they were scum too, since they probed them.
Us?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6050 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:50 am

Lol slip o' the tongue there. Nice catch.

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#6051 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:50 am

But it's probably just referring to town.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6052 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:51 am

Macca573 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:48 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am


I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.

I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
HR could have easily set up a signal with his teammates and told us that they were scum too, since they probed them.
Us?
Yes, he could have had the prober relay something surreptitiously and then publicly told us (everyone) Macca's alignment.

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#6053 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:53 am

Unfortunately I think that is all it is. Evidence that Macca's paying attention at least, though.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6054 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:53 am
Unfortunately I think that is all it is. Evidence that Macca's paying attention at least, though.
Or evidence they're not? Who else could "us" be?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6055 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:51 am
Macca573 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:48 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am


HR could have easily set up a signal with his teammates and told us that they were scum too, since they probed them.
Us?
Yes, he could have had the prober relay something surreptitiously and then publicly told us (everyone) Macca's alignment.
Did HR say anything to town about Macca's alignment? I'm confused what you're saying.

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#6056 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
Targeting Macca for a RB with the idea that HR was going to get off? Why put HR in this position at all? I don't see a comfortable and experienced scum team here. I see either a scum team that feels cornered or one that is inexperienced.
HR is very experienced so this argument makes no sense unless you think he just sat quietly and didn't post in their QT, and this also sounds exactly like an argument you made in M54 to shade me when I was a new player. Hate it.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6057 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:55 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:37 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 am


Macca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.

But they didn't understand the full implications.

BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.

I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
Ah well, celaph is currently much more appealing. But needs must run through the finish line. Luck favors the prepared.
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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6058 Post by kgray » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:56 am

ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:39 am
kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:52 am


Macca confessed to being RBd. They should have just been silent and denied it and let us kill HR.

But they didn't understand the full implications.

BUT this all fits in with the larger theory that you and kgray say is interesting but not your primary read (about damo being targeted by aliens)
I dare you to show me where I said this theory was interesting.

I understand that it's a scenario that could fit the facts but I don't find it particularly likely and I really dislike that there's talk of a Macca wagon just because they happened to be the aliens' RB choice.
HR could have easily set up a signal with his teammates and told us that they were scum too, since they probed them.
Are you one of HR's teammates? What does this mean?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6059 Post by ghug » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:56 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:51 am
Macca573 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:48 am


Us?
Yes, he could have had the prober relay something surreptitiously and then publicly told us (everyone) Macca's alignment.
Did HR say anything to town about Macca's alignment? I'm confused what you're saying.
I'm saying that HR had reason to tell us if Macca was mafia (directing a DK on non-aliens the next day) and chose not to.

I'm honestly surprised he didn't do this regardless of Macca's alignment, now that I think about it.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6060 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:56 am

kgray wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:54 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:35 am
Targeting Macca for a RB with the idea that HR was going to get off? Why put HR in this position at all? I don't see a comfortable and experienced scum team here. I see either a scum team that feels cornered or one that is inexperienced.
HR is very experienced so this argument makes no sense unless you think he just sat quietly and didn't post in their QT, and this also sounds exactly like an argument you made in M54 to shade me when I was a new player. Hate it.
I get HR is experienced. Great.

Tell me why he collapsed like he did EOD2. I still don't understand it, and I've reread that EOD twice now. I have no idea what happened. The only theory I can come up with is that the aliens are panicking and swinging away.

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