MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

Im gonna go play dnd and make love to my wife

That’s awesome role playing. Have fun!

[ghug]

why did ezio become a wagon, walk me thru it like im dumb

Ezio claimed pitched doctor.
Said “figure out why”
Then refused to answer questions
Then Hamilton said “somebody lied about pitch claim. I’m not sure what to do”
Ezio posted after that. Did nothing
Then Hamilton said “it you ezio!”
EZio was online after that. Posted nothing.

what is a pitch claim
what kind of doctor
which teams doctor
what did hamilton hard claim
why did ezio try to out a doctor
why werent we policying ezio with 16 ppl on him if true
what scenario has hb and ezio as both town

Bunny uses "pitch" instead of "discard" because he insists on being difficult
"town doctor" (implication being not loud)
Town's doctor
Hamilton claimed that he got the card, but nothing being that
Great question
People got worried about how he wasn't there to defend himself
The one where Ezio claimed for fun, which is at least possible

[ghug]

Bunny didn’t specify PR. I would have considered several others important too. I think I ranked parrot the top town role (can just spam on doctors. Or on scum. Get lots of self interactions. Or on an investigative and figure out the psycho at once. Parrot is fucking OP!!)

Bona gave you a list and you confirmed you were in it.

Go read it. I said to get the fuck off.

You are so not going to be allowed to weasel out of that one.

[kgray]

A giant reaction test COMPLETELY discounting the possibility you'd get CC'd.

Get the fuck outta here.

But actually. Why would doctor cc?
What's the downside if someone else claims they discarded it?

Are you kidding? You just said one advantage was that you could draw a NK by claiming to have discarded the doc, so if someone CC's you then obviously that puts a target on their back.

[BunnyGo]

Fair enough.

I pitched the mafia role blocker.

I hard claim a town PR role good enough to have done that. Please don’t make me claim it.

If it's not one of the ones I said earlier (cop, conspiracy theorist, jailor, mason, vigilante, clairvoyant), I'm keeping my vote on you.

GET THE FUCK OFF THEN!!

Here’s the post. I don’t give a shit what bona thinks a good role is. I may be on that list. I may be the gun nut. I may be the parrot. Those a great roles. I’m not claiming shit.

[e.m.c^42]

If the two scumteams want to unfuck the HR/Ezio/Cel dilemma with any one of the three not on their respective teams I will spare you all '50 Shakespearian shades of ghug and emc'

Oh c'mon now, I put on damn good show when I have my back in it.

[BunnyGo]

Bona gave you a list and you confirmed you were in it.

Go read it. I said to get the fuck off.

You are so not going to be allowed to weasel out of that one.

If you think I’m letting bona decide what a “role good enough to have pitched Mafia RB is” then town is fucked. I’m. Not. Claiming. Shit. We have enough exposed town PRs as is. Let scum come get me if they’re scared. Fuck you.

[ghug]

If it's not one of the ones I said earlier (cop, conspiracy theorist, jailor, mason, vigilante, clairvoyant), I'm keeping my vote on you.

GET THE FUCK OFF THEN!!

Here’s the post. I don’t give a shit what bona thinks a good role is. I may be on that list. I may be the gun nut. I may be the parrot. Those a great roles. I’m not claiming shit.

You could have easily said "I'm not narrowing down. It's an important role."

He said "I'm keeping my vote on you unless it's one of these."
You said "get the fuck off then".
That means you were claiming one of those roles.

[kgray]

okay so walk me through how the last two hours of d2 went, but tell it to me like im a very very mentally unstable person or a 7 year old having a nightmare

Celaph was a wagon with a sizeable lead, then HB claimed that he knew for a fact that Ezio lied about his discard, which made the celaph wagon die and the Ezio wagon balloon, but then we voted celaph again, and celaph was in the lead right before EoD, but then celaph and HR voted for Ezio, which tied it.

Say more about where the HR wagon came from and why anyone ended on it?

HR told straight up lies and townies tried to kill him for it. We were ignored.

[e.m.c^42]

Bunny's above post gave me thought: currently, the issue is that Damo's whatever scan ability isn't verified as not-reversed, right? Then can't issue be solved by, as long as no one claims parrot as discard (don't think I've seen it on discard list), have presumed parrot target Damo?

[kgray]

Celaph was a wagon with a sizeable lead, then HB claimed that he knew for a fact that Ezio lied about his discard, which made the celaph wagon die and the Ezio wagon balloon, but then we voted celaph again, and celaph was in the lead right before EoD, but then celaph and HR voted for Ezio, which tied it.

Say more about where the HR wagon came from and why anyone ended on it?

Demon started it ages back (T-20:11) because he thought HR was normally methodical but wasn't this game, and kgray and rivera hopped on, but then kgray left. But then she came back! because he wasn't around and she wanted to flashwagon, but then she left. But then she came back, 120 seconds later! cause OMGUS over an earlier vote. Then celaph voted him because he scumread him, but left to vote his counterwagon (which was one of the two votes that tied it in the last minute)

It is not accurate to characterize my scumread of HR as omgus.

[BunnyGo]

GET THE FUCK OFF THEN!!

Here’s the post. I don’t give a shit what bona thinks a good role is. I may be on that list. I may be the gun nut. I may be the parrot. Those a great roles. I’m not claiming shit.

You could have easily said "I'm not narrowing down. It's an important role."

He said "I'm keeping my vote on you unless it's one of these."
You said "get the fuck off then".
That means you were claiming one of those roles.

It was end of day and he had been somehow leading town while being a moron all day. I didn’t give a flying fuck. My role is on the list of town PRs. You want to know? Come fucking kill me you scum.

[BobMcBob]

okay so walk me through how the last two hours of d2 went, but tell it to me like im a very very mentally unstable person or a 7 year old having a nightmare

I LOVE THIS!

Yes please, I want story time for morons. I’m here for that.

I'm 100% here for this. I'm gonna take a look anyway myself, but a summary of key points would be really helpful.

[BunnyGo]

Celaph was a wagon with a sizeable lead, then HB claimed that he knew for a fact that Ezio lied about his discard, which made the celaph wagon die and the Ezio wagon balloon, but then we voted celaph again, and celaph was in the lead right before EoD, but then celaph and HR voted for Ezio, which tied it.

Say more about where the HR wagon came from and why anyone ended on it?

HR told straight up lies and townies tried to kill him for it. We were ignored.

That’s cool. Can you say more like I have been on my phone for the last 6 hours and need it told to me like I’m my 4 year old?

[BunnyGo]

GET THE FUCK OFF THEN!!

Here’s the post. I don’t give a shit what bona thinks a good role is. I may be on that list. I may be the gun nut. I may be the parrot. Those a great roles. I’m not claiming shit.

You could have easily said "I'm not narrowing down. It's an important role."

He said "I'm keeping my vote on you unless it's one of these."
You said "get the fuck off then".
That means you were claiming one of those roles.

That meant “get the fuck off. I’m not telling you shit.” I may be on that list. I don’t let scum know. And you’re on my scum list now for pushing this.

[kgray]

kgray why did you guys trust me

You've been my top townread all game, and especially when you were an early wagon D1, you acted like I've seen you act as town and the opposite of what you did last game. I find EODs are the best time to get accurate reads of people, and at EoD1 I felt like you were doing the exact same thing I was doing. It just felt like we were on the same team, looking for the same thing.

Also I get how town wants answers and info, but the blatant PR hunting is not helpful to town, so I figured it was best if I just went along with whatever it was you were doing.

[kgray]

Ezio claimed pitched doctor.
Said “figure out why”
Then refused to answer questions
Then Hamilton said “somebody lied about pitch claim. I’m not sure what to do”
Ezio posted after that. Did nothing
Then Hamilton said “it you ezio!”
EZio was online after that. Posted nothing.

what is a pitch claim
what kind of doctor
which teams doctor
what did hamilton hard claim
why did ezio try to out a doctor
why werent we policying ezio with 16 ppl on him if true
what scenario has hb and ezio as both town

1) he claimed the card he pitched
2) “town doctor” when asked to clarify, refused
4) Hamilton hard claimed knowledge that ezio was lying
5) I have no ficking clue. That’s why I wanted story time for morons too. Great idea.
6) ezio is a HERO; the type of player that refuses to sit still and take the win. Doesn’t trust teammates. Has to carry them and be weird. Doesn’t think about the trust issues that raises.

Hamilton would have to be also. I don’t see that from either of them. I also don’t see what motivations and “saving town” aspirations Hamilton would have here. Especially with his taunting posts after EOD. That seemed like a confession.

What are you saying about Hamilton in this last paragraph??

[kgray]

Bona gave you a list and you confirmed you were in it.

Go read it. I said to get the fuck off.

You are so not going to be allowed to weasel out of that one.

Is this a "no scum would ever PR hunt this blatantly because of optics" ploy?

[BunnyGo]

what is a pitch claim
what kind of doctor
which teams doctor
what did hamilton hard claim
why did ezio try to out a doctor
why werent we policying ezio with 16 ppl on him if true
what scenario has hb and ezio as both town

1) he claimed the card he pitched
2) “town doctor” when asked to clarify, refused
4) Hamilton hard claimed knowledge that ezio was lying
5) I have no ficking clue. That’s why I wanted story time for morons too. Great idea.
6) ezio is a HERO; the type of player that refuses to sit still and take the win. Doesn’t trust teammates. Has to carry them and be weird. Doesn’t think about the trust issues that raises.

Hamilton would have to be also. I don’t see that from either of them. I also don’t see what motivations and “saving town” aspirations Hamilton would have here. Especially with his taunting posts after EOD. That seemed like a confession.

What are you saying about Hamilton in this last paragraph??

I was asked to figure out if both could be town. Hamilton I just can’t see. He basically confessed after EOD. He would also have had to intentionally tie it KNOWING that would lead town to miskill him AND not get a flip yesterday. For some reason? I can’t figure out any time (bunny now stops. And realizes he’s still typing Hamilton when he means Hellenic. )

[ghug]

Here’s the post. I don’t give a shit what bona thinks a good role is. I may be on that list. I may be the gun nut. I may be the parrot. Those a great roles. I’m not claiming shit.

You could have easily said "I'm not narrowing down. It's an important role."

He said "I'm keeping my vote on you unless it's one of these."
You said "get the fuck off then".
That means you were claiming one of those roles.

That meant “get the fuck off. I’m not telling you shit.” I may be on that list. I don’t let scum know. And you’re on my scum list now for pushing this.

Well, you're on my scum list for claiming vaguely under due pressure and then doing jack shit for the next day. I'm sure it'll all be clear in time, but I'm going to be especially suspicious if you come forward eventually claiming a role that's more difficult to verify and wasn't on the list that Bona foolishly threw out and you confirmed.