MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1841 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:06 pm
kgray wrote:
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I don't like that jasnah's main argument for keeping bozo is because he's keeping track of the discard claim list and has nothing to do with a read.
I don't like that she's willing to give her reasoning on that point but not on others.
Well, that I at least think I get. Because she apparently wants to keep bozo for NAI reasons, so she can explain that without saying what her hunting metrics are. But I don't like that she won't say what her hunting metrics are :lol:

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#1842 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm

Bob is terrible as scum, right?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1843 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 pm

jasnah wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:00 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:58 pm
hitting the quote button is pretty easy
This thread is now 48k words long. That's one third the length of the great work of literature 'Fifty shades of grey' by EL James. Do you think an illiterate peasant like me has the time or the inclination to read through to find the segments I need?

# keep bozo
This is first thing I saw after opening page, but we should absolutely write a "50 Shades of webDip", with a rotating character-roulette pairing method.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1844 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:06 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:03 pm
I don't like that jasnah's main argument for keeping bozo is because he's keeping track of the discard claim list and has nothing to do with a read.
I don't like that she's willing to give her reasoning on that point but not on others.
Well, that I at least think I get. Because she apparently wants to keep bozo for NAI reasons, so she can explain that without saying what her hunting metrics are. But I don't like that she won't say what her hunting metrics are :lol:
Well no, because if you're giving an NAI metric that will cause you to not want someone dead, it amounts to the same thing as giving an AI metric.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1845 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:10 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm
Bob is terrible as scum, right?
I only played with him when he subbed in as scum and was killed pretty quick after not doing much, so I don't know. But honestly I would be absolutely shocked if he were this good.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1846 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:06 pm


I don't like that she's willing to give her reasoning on that point but not on others.
Well, that I at least think I get. Because she apparently wants to keep bozo for NAI reasons, so she can explain that without saying what her hunting metrics are. But I don't like that she won't say what her hunting metrics are :lol:
Well no, because if you're giving an NAI metric that will cause you to not want someone dead, it amounts to the same thing as giving an AI metric.
Wait... what?

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#1847 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm

ifischl voting rivera then disappearing is a bad look

rivera isnt even here. probably on the beach enjoying life.

tough decision

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#1848 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:12 pm

Why isnt HR more vocal here too. his pop ins are creepy

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#1849 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:12 pm

I don't think I will read anything today before, why are we voting who we are?

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#1850 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:12 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm


Well, that I at least think I get. Because she apparently wants to keep bozo for NAI reasons, so she can explain that without saying what her hunting metrics are. But I don't like that she won't say what her hunting metrics are :lol:
Well no, because if you're giving an NAI metric that will cause you to not want someone dead, it amounts to the same thing as giving an AI metric.
Wait... what?
"I don't want to tell people how I'm forming my reads because then people will adjust their behavior to keep me from voting them."
"Here is a behavioral pattern that will keep me from voting you."

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#1851 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:13 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ifischl voting rivera then disappearing is a bad look

rivera isnt even here. probably on the beach enjoying life.

tough decision
ghug and HR don't want Rivera, and while I don't townread either of them, I do kinda sorta somewhat respect their opinions. Want to switch to Bunny?

Alternatively, I didn't really like celaph's vote for lfischl or his weird wishy-washy defense of rivera. I expect better from him.

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#1852 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:15 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:13 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ifischl voting rivera then disappearing is a bad look

rivera isnt even here. probably on the beach enjoying life.

tough decision
ghug and HR don't want Rivera, and while I don't townread either of them, I do kinda sorta somewhat respect their opinions. Want to switch to Bunny?

Alternatively, I didn't really like celaph's vote for lfischl or his weird wishy-washy defense of rivera. I expect better from him.
k

##vote bunny

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#1853 Post by Hellenic Riot » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:15 pm

@kgray

Why did you imply you were suspicious of Bozo earlier in the day, but now strongly oppose his wagon despite not seeming to make a change of opinion on him since then?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1854 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:16 pm

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:12 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:09 pm


Well no, because if you're giving an NAI metric that will cause you to not want someone dead, it amounts to the same thing as giving an AI metric.
Wait... what?
"I don't want to tell people how I'm forming my reads because then people will adjust their behavior to keep me from voting them."
"Here is a behavioral pattern that will keep me from voting you."
Oh, I see. It doesn't explain her reads, but does explain her vote. Which actually might be worse.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1855 Post by celaph » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:17 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:00 pm
celaph wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:57 pm
While I like the people on rdr's wagon more than those on my own, I don't think that rdr is a great D1 kill. I think a lot of his scumminess is coming from general activity and unlike lfischl he produced content when he was around. That said, I like the argument that his agreement with kgray on BB was weird, it certainly was.
I agree with all of this, but I'm struggling to think of scummier people. Who's your top scumread?
In terms of absolute scumminess I think bunny, but the cost if I'm wrong is higher than with with lfischl.

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#1856 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:17 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:15 pm
@kgray

Why did you imply you were suspicious of Bozo earlier in the day, but now strongly oppose his wagon despite not seeming to make a change of opinion on him since then?
I implied I was suspicious of bozo? I don't remember that. I'll go look.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1857 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:17 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:13 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ifischl voting rivera then disappearing is a bad look

rivera isnt even here. probably on the beach enjoying life.

tough decision
ghug and HR don't want Rivera, and while I don't townread either of them, I do kinda sorta somewhat respect their opinions. Want to switch to Bunny?

Alternatively, I didn't really like celaph's vote for lfischl or his weird wishy-washy defense of rivera. I expect better from him.
For the record, my desire not to kill rd is half that he's useful later, half that I don't see anything scummy, and half that I crave his affection and feel bad that he always dies early. #damomath

I'd wagon someone shitty with you if you're strongly inclined to go elsewhere.

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#1858 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:17 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:15 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:13 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:11 pm
ifischl voting rivera then disappearing is a bad look

rivera isnt even here. probably on the beach enjoying life.

tough decision
ghug and HR don't want Rivera, and while I don't townread either of them, I do kinda sorta somewhat respect their opinions. Want to switch to Bunny?

Alternatively, I didn't really like celaph's vote for lfischl or his weird wishy-washy defense of rivera. I expect better from him.
k

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I'd be behind this

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1859 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 pm

rivera ISO gives nothing of out-of-regular as far as I can tell. What gives?

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#1860 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:19 pm
rivera ISO gives nothing of out-of-regular as far as I can tell. What gives?
seemed a bit empty and looked alot like copying his last two games

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