MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 1.10 AMENDED

lfischl (5) - ghug, kgray, Donny Dude, Hamilton Brian, Celaph
DemonRHK (2) - jasnah, BobMcBob
bozotheclown (2) - damo666, Macca573
brainbomb (1) - Maniac
Maniac (1) - rdrivera2005
damo666 (1) - Vecna
rdrivera2005 (1) - bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1) - Bonatogether
No‑Kill (1) - Ezio
Macca573 (1) - lfischl
BunnyGo (1) - brainbomb

Unvoted: DemonRHK, BunnyGo - these will count as "No Kill" votes at EoD unless you cast new votes.

Day 1 ends in 1 hour 47 minutes.

LFISCHL is set to be daykilled.

E.m.c^42, and Hellenic Riot MUST cast a valid vote before the day ends.

[brainbomb]

if bunny doesnt go by 430 ill switch to rdrivera

[Bonatogether]

Thanks for clarifying; I am intrigued how the other players on your list would give us a lot of info if flipped. Are you suggesting that from the VCA standpoint?

What list are you referring to? The only thing that I see that could be construed as a list is bunny and celaph here

Referring to here. Perhaps I misread what you were saying?

Those players are all active and so have a lot of interactions that we can use to figure out other player's alignments.

[damo666]

gotta go watch Metroplois

back by EOD

why lf....?

[celaph]

##vote lfischl

I think that their D1 has been the most lacking thus far. I'm not a fan of many of the other wagons except Bunny's.

I'd love to hear how LFisch has the "most lacking" in a day with emc playing as he has, though.

To be honest I totally forgot about emc.

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote lfischl

I think that their D1 has been the most lacking thus far. I'm not a fan of many of the other wagons except Bunny's.

I'd love to hear how LFisch has the "most lacking" in a day with emc playing as he has, though.

To be honest I totally forgot about emc.

Did you totally forget about Vecna, too?

[damo666]

no man you cant just dismiss these reads. look at the board, play the position.

taint diplo

can you start actually making sentences

sry

have been slurping

[kgray]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

[celaph]

##vote lfischl

I think that their D1 has been the most lacking thus far. I'm not a fan of many of the other wagons except Bunny's.

bunny isnt a wagon im just on him

Does the term wagon imply a minimum number of people?

[Hellenic Riot]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

This sounds pretty much identical to the case I made on rdrivera D1 last game.

[kgray]

if bunny doesnt go by 430 ill switch to rdrivera

Honestly I'm okay with either of those wagons.

[brainbomb]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

the fact hes gone after maniac three games in a row on day 1. established maniac is a easy place to park

[celaph]

I'd love to hear how LFisch has the "most lacking" in a day with emc playing as he has, though.

To be honest I totally forgot about emc.

Did you totally forget about Vecna, too?

No. I mentioned Vecna in a comment to HB a little ago.

[Bonatogether]

bona you wanted someone high profile to die.
join me on bunny

##vote Bunny

[brainbomb]

bona you wanted someone high profile to die.
join me on bunny

##vote Bunny

dammit now I kinda want rdriv more

[kgray]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

This sounds pretty much identical to the case I made on rdrivera D1 last game.

Hmm. I didn't read the last game that closely. But I feel like he's usually more insightful than he's being here. Do you think his play here is pretty much identical to last game?

[kgray]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

the fact hes gone after maniac three games in a row on day 1. established maniac is a easy place to park

Yeah but he's been town in those games.

[Bonatogether]

You barely even know me or my playstyle or meta. Nobody has this opinion of me. The only person who actually thinks like this is maybe flash. What are you basing this on? it just feels like you randomly decided based on one game that Im a great elim option

This is missing my point. You're not a good early dk target because of your playstyle last game - you're a good early dk target because you flipping gives us a lot of info on a lot of people. I'd put ghug, kgray, bunny, and maybe donny in this category, off the top of my head.

youve gone away from alot of these names bona. Why is that?

You're still missing my point. I'm saying voting scum d1 gives us less info than voting actives. I listed the best people to vote using that metric. However, I'm also still putting out my scumreads (bunny and celaph)

[ghug]

Why do you think he's scum though? All you said is that he hasn't done anything helpful.

His vote on me felt very opportunistic, as did his not jumping off of me until you pressed him directly.

I'm not sure it was opportunistic to jump on you, I think he really thought Vecna had a guilty on you. And if you're town, I feel like you should be townreading him for that. But yeah, I didn't like that he stayed there.

When he voted for me, he made it sound like he was voting for me because I had voted for him to determine spelling. I'm not entirely convinced he was actually following Vecna.

Believing a false cop claim also isn't a reason to townread someone in a game with multiple factions.

[Hellenic Riot]

I'm also mildly suspicious of Rivera because even though he's often not a big poster early, he usually does present some reads. This game all he's done is piggy-back off my brain townread, said basically what I said about Macca (and bozo pointed out why Rivera saying that didn't make sense) and made a weird comment about Maniac being scummy for things that Rivera knows very well that town!Maniac does.

This sounds pretty much identical to the case I made on rdrivera D1 last game.

Hmm. I didn't read the last game that closely. But I feel like he's usually more insightful than he's being here. Do you think his play here is pretty much identical to last game?

I called him out fairly near the EoD for not providing any reads and for retracting the only read he'd given all day, and attempted to start a late wagon on him. He OMGUS'd me for most of the rest of the game