MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[aarodactyl]

If you think he's scum, what do you think of his push on ghug?

If I believe Chaqa it's bussing, lmao. But NAI on his part; in the M40's nitpicking over specific words was sorta a scum!Jamie trait but his meta has shifted enough that it's not a thing anymore.

whoops crosspost. But I don't think he'd push scum!ghug this much. Him pushing the amount he is the only reason I think ghug is viable right now.

[bozotheclown]

Of the top 3 wagons, I think Bonatogether has the best chance of being scum. I think the things HR pointed out are reasonably suspicious.

##VOTE Bonatogether

[President Eden]

Well I hope ghug is mafia then. I'm thunderstruck that I was pushing this hard at the beginning of day 2 and no one wanted it, but now after he's actually looked somewhat townie everyone wants it. Makes no damn sense.

It's quite clear no one cares to kill damo. Not sure where my final vote is gonna end up yet.

[Hellenic Riot]

Can't say I really get the ghug wagon at all - That Jamie still thinks he slipped despite the fact that he made the post about there not being VT flavour names *before* the post that Jamie thinks he slipped in and yet nobody has corrected Jamie and he hasn't noticed this until now truly befuddles me.

The EMC wagon is more interesting. After being so wrong about him last game I'm less inclined to stare there this time around, but he *does* feel a hell of a lot more jokey-laughy than he did last game. I have no idea if that's a scumtell of his, but there are differences in feeling for sure.

The worcej wagon sucks and people still being on it sucks more. I've found worcej fairly townie today.

HB's vanity-vote on Bunny which seems highly unlikely to go anywhere is really bad. HB has been extremely reactive this game which also doesn't strike me as his normal style.

Damo just strikes me as outright trolling at this point, with his posts of "I never make naked votes" repeatedly interspersed with a bunch of... Naked votes. Quite amusing.

Bozo just isn't gonna happen today so I hope Donny stops wasting that vote.

[aarodactyl]

PE, I don't think damo is going to happen today

[BunnyGo]

vecna was roleblocked

or was he?

hmmmm

You claimed roleblocked?!

[Vecna]

Of the top 3 wagons, I think Bonatogether has the best chance of being scum. I think the things HR pointed out are reasonably suspicious.

##VOTE Bonatogether

what the...

[damo666]

If he voted worcej, one of his ** suspects, it would be tied and there would be several people around who would be incentivized to follow just to survive (Bona, ghug). He even has an explicit preference for worcej over ghug as expressed in the quoted post.

Instead he follows brainbomb, another ** suspect, onto a * suspect.

I reduced worcej from ** to *

OK.
Your stated reason for the move was to set all your viable suspects at more or less equal wagons and see what happens.
What did you take away from this?

I'll let you know before EOD

[bozotheclown]

Thats what I used to use as well, but he's been incorporating it into his scumgame as well

That's true. I've still gotten bad vibes from him the last two games though.

Who do you want today if Jamie isn't happening?

Worcej

I will go back to worcej if we can flip him today.

[ghug]

##VOTE bona

Pretty sure emc is town.

[Donny Dude]

Can't say I really get the ghug wagon at all - That Jamie still thinks he slipped despite the fact that he made the post about there not being VT flavour names *before* the post that Jamie thinks he slipped in and yet nobody has corrected Jamie and he hasn't noticed this until now truly befuddles me.

The EMC wagon is more interesting. After being so wrong about him last game I'm less inclined to stare there this time around, but he *does* feel a hell of a lot more jokey-laughy than he did last game. I have no idea if that's a scumtell of his, but there are differences in feeling for sure.

The worcej wagon sucks and people still being on it sucks more. I've found worcej fairly townie today.

HB's vanity-vote on Bunny which seems highly unlikely to go anywhere is really bad. HB has been extremely reactive this game which also doesn't strike me as his normal style.

Damo just strikes me as outright trolling at this point, with his posts of "I never make naked votes" repeatedly interspersed with a bunch of... Naked votes. Quite amusing.

Bozo just isn't gonna happen today so I hope Donny stops wasting that vote.

I am well aware hr. I am inclined to my opinion on who is scum. Does not mean I have to join everyone else if I don't see a person I think is scum.

[aarodactyl]

or was he?

hmmmm

You claimed roleblocked?!

Oh btw, I was roleblocked

[President Eden]

PE, I don't think damo is going to happen today

Yea I think ghug is just dead here. If it's ghug/Bona/worcej then most of the leftover votes are likely to break for ghug.

The way this is happening is really sketching me out.

[ghug]

Seriously why doesn't anyone want to flash wagon brain with me?

[bozotheclown]

Of the top 3 wagons, I think Bonatogether has the best chance of being scum. I think the things HR pointed out are reasonably suspicious.

##VOTE Bonatogether

what the...

I think emc is likely town and I do not like the ghug scum slip theory.

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote Worcej

Of the top 4 wagons, they're probably the closest to my scum tier. Those 4 can't garner much right now. That's my work for the next Day, if I get through.

[Hellenic Riot]

Thats what I used to use as well, but he's been incorporating it into his scumgame as well

That's true. I've still gotten bad vibes from him the last two games though.

Who do you want today if Jamie isn't happening?

Although I have no read of bona, so im not gonna do anything against that wagon.

He had that one post where he spat out against HR (I DONT CARE WHAT? U GUYS WANT ME TO DO AND HOW U WANT ME TO PLAY) - Which I felt was slightly in his benefit and keeps me from voting there. But since I havent read the rest of his game I have no real idea if the argument against him has merit.

My issue with posts like the one you're referring to being used to change a read is that when you spell out you're scumreading X person because they're not doing Y, and give a bunch of examples, then X person suddenly doing Y is not necessarily a natural reaction but quite plausibly them hurriedly realising they need to act more like their town self. It's the exact same reason why I didn't townread Durga for getting angry right after ghug & I had called her out for being too passive - If you've spelt out exactly how you think someone would be acting as town, them acting like that afterwards is a bit too late for it to be a towntell.

[aarodactyl]

PE, I don't think damo is going to happen today

Yea I think ghug is just dead here. If it's ghug/Bona/worcej then most of the leftover votes are likely to break for ghug.

The way this is happening is really sketching me out.

The way it's happening is weird, but out of those three, I'll end up joining the ghug train unless something else is happening.

[President Eden]

Just tried making a tier list, and realised most of playerbase got shucked under "probably town but wifom", which really meant nothing at all so will consolidate in by-person posts instead. Doubt I'll get to everyone but might as well start somewhere, eh?

I kind of liked this post from EMC.
I had town vibes from it.

That's an interesting point...time to read HB...

Back to ##vote EMC

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[BunnyGo]

PE, I don't think damo is going to happen today

Yea I think ghug is just dead here. If it's ghug/Bona/worcej then most of the leftover votes are likely to break for ghug.

The way this is happening is really sketching me out.

Why are you talking about worcej?