MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[e.m.c^42]

@Bungo, if you're going to do what you did you should at least follow through imo. Avoiding subject that abruptly seems...hrm

I've been specifically asked to change the topic. What's your read of damo based on? It was pretty quick. I usually can't read him that fast, and I've been scum with him something like 4 or 5 times.

ez metric,

if damo = happy
damo is scum

[BunnyGo]

@Bungo, if you're going to do what you did you should at least follow through imo. Avoiding subject that abruptly seems...hrm

I've been specifically asked to change the topic. What's your read of damo based on? It was pretty quick. I usually can't read him that fast, and I've been scum with him something like 4 or 5 times.

ez metric,

if damo = happy
damo is scum

Interesting. My metric has been: If damo = bored then damo is scum.

[e.m.c^42]

Anyway current tl;dr takeaway from Bungo's reaction thing is that it comes across as power fishing, presuming that VT/goons don't have names while roles do or something like that, and it flopped with great alacrity and sour ketchup.

[Donny Dude]

##vote ND

Durga, what is your reason for moving to ND?
Interesting but more for vc analysis later on in that Durga moved when there was a 3 way tie.
Has your read of me changed then?

[Donny Dude]

##vote Donny

Why?

it stirs the pot a little

Bona, what changed from your earlier statement on page 50:

I like celaph and aaro this time around, dislike bunny. Chaqa and Eden need to cool it with the among us talk. Emc is probably town. Brain is doing the same stuff as last time, and ghug is being weird. Durga/Tom/bozo haven't said anything AI, and I don't know Donny or Demon well enough to say anything.
Not being able to +1 things is gonna get me dked cause I can't back up that I'm reading the thread. Calling it now.

to then voting for Donny.

[ghug]

It's just amusing Chaqa bc when you're town you lurk and usually just get miskilled and you don't put any effort into the game, whereas ghug might get most things wrong but at least he tries?

Lmao I'm not claiming to be perfect but most things wrong is harsh.

[ghug]

Big fan of bona's vote reasoning.

[Chaqa]

It's just amusing Chaqa bc when you're town you lurk and usually just get miskilled and you don't put any effort into the game, whereas ghug might get most things wrong but at least he tries?

I do try. I just don’t feel the need to write War and Peace every phase of the game just to make it look like I’m trying. I don’t agree with or play the same way most of you all do. Forum mafia is a crapshoot early and there’s not really anything to go on.

Like today. Y’all are gonna kill ND because you don’t like him again.

[e.m.c^42]

Readz. I made this last night as I was drifting off to sleep. I held off because I didn't want to post my thoughts on BG, but I realized I could just redact those. So here we go.



Tier 1 Definitely Don’t Shoot: Chaqa, Durga
Tier 2 Don’t Shoot: bozotheclown, e.m.c^42, ghug
Tier 3 Probably Don’t Shoot: aarodactyl, DemonRHK
Tier 4 Could Shoot: Maniac, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb, celaph, damo666, Donny Dude, rdrivera2005, Hellenic Riot, Bonatogether, ND, Vecna, Jamiet99uk

[I intentionally redacted BunnyGo from this list.]

[snipped]

Aw, I've missed readlists like these. They used to be more common in play but then as the playerbase shifted out to newer players this style vanished. Quality of games probably did a tango somewhere but that's also nostalgia speaking, so.

Shall respond in cut-up quotes.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo looks very sketchy so far.

@Damo: Could you explain your vote for Maniac, and provide an update on your current thoughts about Bozo? Thanks.

Good question but can I get you to answer too?

Sorry what did you ask me, PE, that I haven't answered? I missed your question.

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote Jamie

[e.m.c^42]

Jamiet99uk—I want to say town because the behavioral tells ostensibly match his town game, but Durga’s observation that it would be easier for Jamie to fake aggression as mafia than to step back from it as town sticks out to me here.

I would not say "scum!Jamie = aggressive" is a valid meta read anymore and disagree with the observation, actually. At one point it was true enough but for the past long enough his aggression (in terms of emotional posts, rather than questioning or tunneling) afaik seems more related to his sobriety than anything else lol, and his recent scum game from what can be recalled was rather a plaid of placidity and tease rather than bite.

[DemonRHK]

##Vote celaph

There was an exchange on 45 between him and Aaro that just hit all kinds of wrong. I still don't like Maniac for rasons stated earlier.

A lot of today has been lost in the noise surrounding Bunny and Eden. We are in a odd state where irregardless of allignment, the best info executions are out of ghug, Eden, Bunny, and Chaqa. But, I don't like ANY of those wagons today. I'd be willing to consolidate onto one or two of them, maybe, but they haven't been outstandingly scummy. I feel most everyone has really hit somewhere in the middle this game for me.

If this wagon doesn't take off (and I expect it won't, I want some documentation of my distaste of what I pointed out), I'll re-evaluate about an hour to EoD

[Jamiet99uk]

Eden has stopped being Flum and has transitioned to being lesser-bo. Not sure what to feel about that.

There is no "lesser" bo.

Bo is like the zero on the Kelvin scale of worst.

[President Eden]

Damo looks very sketchy so far.

@Damo: Could you explain your vote for Maniac, and provide an update on your current thoughts about Bozo? Thanks.

Good question but can I get you to answer too?

Sorry what did you ask me, PE, that I haven't answered? I missed your question.

Oh I just wanted to know how you felt about Maniac at this point. He appears to be the main counterwagon to ND.

[DemonRHK]

@Chaqa: What breed?

[President Eden]

Jamiet99uk—I want to say town because the behavioral tells ostensibly match his town game, but Durga’s observation that it would be easier for Jamie to fake aggression as mafia than to step back from it as town sticks out to me here.

I would not say "scum!Jamie = aggressive" is a valid meta read anymore and disagree with the observation, actually. At one point it was true enough but for the past long enough his aggression (in terms of emotional posts, rather than questioning or tunneling) afaik seems more related to his sobriety than anything else lol, and his recent scum game from what can be recalled was rather a plaid of placidity and tease rather than bite.

I meant that his town game is more aggressive, and his mafia game isn't as aggressive, so as mafia he would have to produce that aggression.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Jamie

For what reason?

[e.m.c^42]

It's just amusing Chaqa bc when you're town you lurk and usually just get miskilled and you don't put any effort into the game, whereas ghug might get most things wrong but at least he tries?

I do try. I just don’t feel the need to write War and Peace every phase of the game just to make it look like I’m trying. I don’t agree with or play the same way most of you all do. Forum mafia is a crapshoot early and there’s not really anything to go on.

Like today. Y’all are gonna kill ND because you don’t like him again.

I think his absence(?)lurking also has some more to do with it lol. He's not a bad player when he invests - that 3P game was pretty solid.

[Maniac]

##voteDamo666

For two reasons. First I have this inkling that damo fears me. He thinks I'll solve the game at some point and he wants me dead. Or it could be OMGUS IDK

And I'm town reading Bunny right now who is also voting Damo