M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[damo666]

Suspect HR v Flum is TvT

Bona making too many mistakes to be scum.

Warming to Balki though he may be pocketing me.

Beginning to think there must be deepscum among the widely townread.

I'll ##vote kgray

Also willing to vote Balki Maniac aaro celaph Bozo ghug.

Basically confirming I'm clueless.

The most important voting data is from D1 and this is where kgray looks dodgy. The fact she sounds townie is neither here nor there as she is well capable of doing that as scum.

[damo666]

@Maniac can you point to where I scumread yoyo. I don't recall that. I had him as mid table.

[Hellenic Riot]

I feel like you could search many people's names in Balki's iso and get similar results to searching Flum, which reflects poorly on Balki, but not on Flum.

That was the conclusion I was making, yes

[dargorygel]

FIVE days of vote-counts!

Hellenic Riot (2): kgray, flum
Fluminator (2): HR, bozo
damo666 (1): ghug
Chaqa (1): Maniac
kgray (1): damo

Not yet sending Christmas Presents: aarodactyl, Balki, bona, Chaqa, Tom (time to get wrapping, folks!)

Presently, no one is set to have their Christmas Goose cooked.

One Entire Day, Ten Entire Hours, and 10 Full Minutes until this day concludes.

[Bonatogether]

What's your opinion on ghug? Are you not at all concerned about ghug pocketing you?

I think he's probably town, but I can't shake the feeling that he's scum and trying to do that.

[bozotheclown]

Everyone's jail claims:
HR*: Kgray Damo
Flum*: HR Kgray
kgray": HR Vecna
aaro: Flum Worcej
Balki*: Flum Vecna
Worcej: Balki Damo
EMC: damo maniac
ghug*: kgray flum
bozo": HR Vecna
bona: brain celaph
bunny: ghug Kgray
maniac: vashta ghug
damo: ghug ghug
Celaph*: Bona Vecna
Vecna: Kgray Brainbomb
Jamiet: Vecna Neph
Chaqa: Bunny Balki

*Could be the smuggler telling the truth about who they visited. Vecna and Maniac gave impossible answers. Aaro did as well, but was scolded and forget them.

With Yoyoyozo flipping scum, the list of those who could be the smuggler telling the truth, assuming the smuggler used their power both nights, has been reduced to this:

damo: ghug ghug

This makes sense, because if ghug is a goon, he would be the logical choice to smuggle. Also, the fact that ghug has not brought this list up again today after posting it N4 is suspicious. ghug did not flag damo's choice as possible, although he could say that this was from his perspective. ghug posting this N4 could have been him trying to get out in front of the problem.

If damo is town, he was the only one who gave the same jailer target for both night, which stands out.

ghug is also voting for damo today, and if we learned nothing else this game, it is that the scum team decided to bus early and often.

Considering I already thought damo looked fairly suspicious, I think he is a good choice today to see if he is the smuggler.

##VOTE damo

[bozotheclown]

Jailing update:

HR: Kgray Damo
Flum: HR Kgray
kgray: HR Vecna
aaro: Flum Worcej
Balki: Flum Vecna
Worcej: Balki Damo
EMC: damo maniac
ghug: kgray flum
bozo: HR Vecna
bona: brain celaph
bunny: ghug Kgray
maniac: vashta ghug
damo: ghug ghug

Confirmed Town so why bother?:

Durga (tracker)
Tom (vig)

People remaining:

Jamie
Celaph
Chaqa
Vecna
Yoyo

Aww thanks.. You just wanna be alone with me?

Aww thanks.. You just wanna be alone with me?

I think you need locking up.

What's that gotta do with the game?

Nothing ghug.

This exchange could be to preempt questions about damo's jailer choices.

[bozotheclown]

I still think were just looking at a scenario where all scum are in the group HR/Bozo/Damo/Balki/Maniac

You may be right. I've helped you.

So its Ghug/HR/Damo then?

Although Vecna is a logic NK, he may have been selected because he was closest to being correct.

[bozotheclown]

Other reason to suspect damo #1 (the thing Maniac pointed out D1):

Nice to meet you aarodactyl. Happy Thanksgiving.

Have you read any of the games here?
What do you expect will be the hardest part about finding scum in a forum game instead of a live game?
How do you scumhunt in live games, and is that adaptable to this format?

Same goes for @bonatogether and @celaph, but I guess I also want to know what your mafia/werewolf experience is too.

I haven’t read any of the games here. I’ve debated doing it in the past but it seems like it would take a long time given all the volume.

I’m a little concerned about different players blurring together, since I don’t have people to associate them with. Also the sheer volume of posts is going to make figuring out signals hard.

To be honest, I’m not great a hard reads so I usually like to try to think about reads in terms of roles in live games.

Here's a quick rundown

HR solid player
Flum ignore most of what flum says
Durga doesn't read enough
Jamie is usually easy to read, will prob obvtown soon enough
ghug thinks he's smart (he's not bad), unnecessarily anti-English
HamB trying to not get modkilled
Vecna thinks he's good but usually gets things wrong, will obvtown if town
Bunny hops
kgray wily
Nap new
celaph brainy I assume
worcej reverse his reads to solve game
Maniac yes
damo me
rdr good
brain occasionally insipired amongst the tripe without rwealising it
bozo logical
emc doesn't actually say anything, usually 3p but not this game
chaqa likes chipotle
teacon not a pot or a cosy, a con
ND puts on a charade of toxicity to provoke a reaction, might be a grocer
yoyo up and down
Vash ?
Neph pleasant
aaro new
BB better than your average Balki

damo's statement on Jamie does not question Jamie's alignment like his similar statement on Vecna. I think this still is suspicious with Jamie as scum.

[bozotheclown]

Other reasons to suspect damo #2 (damo's D1 EOD vote for Maniac and his questionable explanation):

The 'prob' implies the unstated "assuming he is town". Obviously.

Go vote somewhere worthwhile.

I do not know if I buy damo's explanation.

Also, I question damo avoiding ND vs. teacon with his final vote:

ND and teacon both town imo so

##vote Maniac

a) your prerogative but the explanation is true. Jamie interestingly hasn't obvtowned to his usual obvtowning standard yet. A bit early yet I guess but watching that slot.
b) I don't really get why you question my vote. It was pointless leaving my vote on Durga and I was pretty convinced ND was town so I had to vote teacon or Maniac. Of the two I felt Maniac was less towny so voted there. In hindsight however I probably should have voted teacon being the wagon more likely to save ND which was my prime motivator. Hmmm. I'm a bit annoyed with myself now. O well, can't change it now.

[bozotheclown]

more later

[Chaqa]

Not sure why Maniac says I'm buddying him. That's weird.

Remaining Player list: (ft. my personal town reads in green)
aarodactyl
Balki Bartokomous
Bonatogether
bozotheclown
celaph
Chaqa
damo666
Fluminator
ghug
Hellenic Riot
kgray
Maniac
Tom Bombadil

I had some decent town leans on kgray and Bona earlier, but I'm not so sure at the moment. I want to go look at Day 1-3 for some vote records and see what I can dig up. Not sure when I'll have the chance to do that as I'm dealing with some medical stuff atm (had to get Covid tested for the second time this year yesterday...)

For now I'll put a preliminary ##Vote Bozo

[Chaqa]

And yes, my own name should be in green. Inb4 scumslip

[ghug]

Feels wrong waking up to no Vecna.

[Chaqa]

Feels wrong waking up to no Vecna.

EMC, if you're reading, can you illustrate this? I'm imagining:

Panel 1: ghug in bed alone. other side of the bed empty
Panel 2: wakes up, looks at side table
Panel 3: grabs picture frame, it's ghug + vecna
Panel 4: ghug sobs

[ghug]

You may be right. I've helped you.

So its Ghug/HR/Damo then?

Although Vecna is a logic NK, he may have been selected because he was closest to being correct.

This is so disingenuous, bozo.

[kgray]

Suspect HR v Flum is TvT

Bona making too many mistakes to be scum.

Warming to Balki though he may be pocketing me.

Beginning to think there must be deepscum among the widely townread.

I'll ##vote kgray

Also willing to vote Balki Maniac aaro celaph Bozo ghug.

Basically confirming I'm clueless.

The most important voting data is from D1 and this is where kgray looks dodgy. The fact she sounds townie is neither here nor there as she is well capable of doing that as scum.

Remember how we won last game because the remaining living townies ignored Vecna's strongest townread once he died and we got a miskill? Are you worried about that at all here?

[kgray]

@bozo has your scumread of Flum weakened or are you just more interested in damo now for some reason?

@HR can you explain why you thought damo got scummier when he started doing things that, imo, town!damo is more likely to do?

[damo666]

Suspect HR v Flum is TvT

Bona making too many mistakes to be scum.

Warming to Balki though he may be pocketing me.

Beginning to think there must be deepscum among the widely townread.

I'll ##vote kgray

Also willing to vote Balki Maniac aaro celaph Bozo ghug.

Basically confirming I'm clueless.

The most important voting data is from D1 and this is where kgray looks dodgy. The fact she sounds townie is neither here nor there as she is well capable of doing that as scum.

Remember how we won last game because the remaining living townies ignored Vecna's strongest townread once he died and we got a miskill? Are you worried about that at all here?

I've never thought much of Vecna's reads tbh. I wouldn't take them into account.

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[Balki Bartokomous]

I've never thought much of Vecna's reads tbh. I wouldn't take them into account.

This post strikes me as towny. No window dressing.