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An Important Thyng

#1 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:37 am

Once there were only 25 letters in the English alphabet. No one knew "y."
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#2 Post by RoganJosh » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:45 am

y ü ij
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#3 Post by yavuzovic » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:24 am

I Grec
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#4 Post by gimix » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:31 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:37 am
Once there were only 25 letters in the English alphabet. No one knew "y."
Then they began to play Diplomacy and saw Yorkshire, and were forced to add that letter which is so rare in English?
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#5 Post by rick258 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 pm

Interesting also my understanding is that in old English there were no silent letters.
So you would have pronounced the letter E in in lifE
the letter K and E in KnifE.

Knight and and Night would have sounded completely different, hence their spellings to this day.
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#6 Post by dargorygel » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:14 pm

gimix wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:31 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:37 am
Once there were only 25 letters in the English alphabet. No one knew "y."
Then they began to play Diplomacy and saw Yorkshire, and were forced to add that letter which is so rare in English?
Exactly! Not only did diplomacy Change the world via improving the diplomatic skills of Kennedy and kissenger, but WE IMPROVED the English language AND made spelling less tedious!

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#7 Post by taylor4 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:17 pm

Great Cæsar's ghost! Ye gads & Little Fishes!!

OE (Anglo-Saxon) ligatures, Middle English calligraphy, and improvemtn in Modern English orthography? Good Grief, Charlie Brown, the language is boggled down in what takes ten (10) years to dispell.
SEE G B Shaw's proposal. And there are others.
But there are 2 "TH" stounds like the Greek Theta, for thin and for that.
Written & pronounced thru Chaucer and even in Spenser there are not only the AE ligature, as in CAESAR (above), but also what you see in Ye Olde Whatever.
And the Proper nouns: Cholmondley, etc., in English history.
I omit the Scottish and Northumbrian sounds, which may not affect spelling.
As for the letters in the Greek alphabet, from which we get the Roman letters, they once had the Digamma which was said in Homeric epics but not written down when the Athenian Peisistratus order them preserved in written form.

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#8 Post by dargorygel » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:25 pm

taylor4 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:17 pm
Great Cæsar's ghost! Ye gads & Little Fishes!!

OE (Anglo-Saxon) ligatures, Middle English calligraphy, and improvemtn in Modern English orthography? Good Grief, Charlie Brown, the language is boggled down in what takes ten (10) years to dispell.
SEE G B Shaw's proposal. And there are others.
But there are 2 "TH" stounds like the Greek Theta, for thin and for that.
Written & pronounced thru Chaucer and even in Spenser there are not only the AE ligature, as in CAESAR (above), but also what you see in Ye Olde Whatever.
And the Proper nouns: Cholmondley, etc., in English history.
I omit the Scottish and Northumbrian sounds, which may not affect spelling.
As for the letters in the Greek alphabet, from which we get the Roman letters, they once had the Digamma which was said in Homeric epics but not written down when the Athenian Peisistratus order them preserved in written form.

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Ummm... Thanks. My post was a (poor, admittedly) joke. Replace "y' with "why." But I did enjoy the lessons.

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#9 Post by President Eden » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:23 am

I have decided to bump this older thread to test something.
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#10 Post by jmo1121109 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:32 am

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#11 Post by samajo » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:58 am

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#12 Post by dipperjay » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:04 am

President Eden wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:23 am
I have decided to bump this older thread to test something.
Y?
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#13 Post by teacon7 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:24 am

gimix wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:31 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:37 am
Once there were only 25 letters in the English alphabet. No one knew "y."
Then they began to play Diplomacy and saw Yorkshire, and were forced to add that letter which is so rare in English?
Saruman: "Well drat, I've been evicted from Orthanc and cannot stay in Isengard. Where should we go now?"
Uruk-hai: "gaaAaarh!"
Grima Wormtongue: "Perhaps we go north with this company of orcs, sire."
Saruman: "... orkshire, you say. Very well."

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#14 Post by Matticus13 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:51 am

Member when "&" was in the alphabet? Those were the days...
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Re: An Important Thyng

#15 Post by MajorMitchell » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm

Now in this winter of twentyfirst century whippersnapper Millennial txtspk our discontent with their odious Babel script will not I contend become a Glorious Summer of Gentle Talk or well punctuated & spelt, well contemplated upon and carefully constructed Expression in Texts.

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#16 Post by dargorygel » Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:57 pm

MajorMitchell wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:04 pm
Now in this winter of twentyfirst century whippersnapper Millennial txtspk our discontent with their odious Babel script will not I contend become a Glorious Summer of Gentle Talk or well punctuated & spelt, well contemplated upon and carefully constructed Expression in Texts.
And... we have always been at war with Oceania. (Not Oceanya)

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#17 Post by MajorMitchell » Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:46 pm

Well just don't try trapping beloved Dipbro Jamiet99Uk into playing under Brutal DSS scoring system in Xmas giveaways..

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