M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[damo666]

@GM does the FH protectee get a message
a) if saved
b) if no kill attempt is made

Does the FH get a message if
c) his protection target was not the subject of a kill attempt
d) his protection target was saved from a kill attempt

Are c and d different?

[kgray]

Looking at Maniac's actual words... do you think he might have had you as a likely target?

Well since Maniac said he didn't scumread me, my instinct is that he wasn't likely to target me. But I can't pretend to know what he was thinking. His games were either a method of getting reactions or taking a survey to see what the general consensus was, and I have been scumread by a few vocal and/or respected people, so there was a chance.

I'm still not sure why some people are so convinced it was going to be me or seth, though. I did not come to that conclusion.

I suggested it was plausible, given his late vote on you and the constant desire for Seth to be a wagon. It's certainly enough that I would have been afraid to target him had I been scum with either of you.

Yes, I thought seth was a likely target based on Maniac's final 3 options and considering bo was leading the vote. I don't think Maniac's vote for me was indicative of whether or not he would target me.

[rdrivera2005]

Because those were the people Maniac said he was gonna target???

Am I missing some galaxy-brain Maniac play here?

I hate that "im gonna say one thing but hurr durr do another" shit. it's confusing and anti-town

When did he say he was going to target me? He voted for me because at the time I wasn't voting for seth, bo or Maniac.

Oooh, that's right, yeah. I was throwing you on the list with me and seth due to that vote, though

I made this same mistake. I also considered Dargo as a possible target because of Maniac comment to him at night.

[kgray]

tbh I think that anyone who thought they could predict who Maniac would target is fooling themselves.

[damo666]

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Translation somebody please

[rdrivera2005]

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Oh shit he back

And seems to think Jamiet is scum doctor (or that Jamiet is scum and scum has a doctor).

[kgray]

@GM does the FH protectee get a message
a) if saved
b) if no kill attempt is made

Does the FH get a message if
c) his protection target was not the subject of a kill attempt
d) his protection target was saved from a kill attempt

Are c and d different?

I don't understand why you need to know this. Do you no longer believe Jamie's claim?

[ghug]

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Translation somebody please

I'm honestly not sure. I asked him for top scumreads, five Jamie votes, top townreads, five Jamie votes. Bunny asked him for the code thing and got shot down by the GMs.

@@Flum, vote Jamie:
Once if you're sheeping him
Twice if you were snarkily answering my question
Thrice if you're answering another question that I'm missing
Quatrice if you just really think he's scum and you have read everything
Quintice if you just really think he's scum and you haven't caught up
Sextice if you aren't allowed to communicate with us like this anymore (I feel like this is fair to clarify, since you were doing so before)
Septice if other

[Fluminator]

##vote Jamie
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[ghug]

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Alright, I suggest catching up.

If you don't intend to catch up, vote me and then vote Jamie.

[ghug]

##vote Jamie
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Alright, I suggest catching up.

If you don't intend to catch up, vote me and then vote Jamie.

If you've caught up and still think he's scum, vote Jamie twice.
If you've caught up and now think he's town, vote Jamie thrice.

[Chaqa]

##vote Jamie
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Alright, I suggest catching up.

If you don't intend to catch up, vote me and then vote Jamie.

If you've caught up and still think he's scum, vote Jamie twice.
If you've caught up and now think he's town, vote Jamie thrice.

If you want to sheep Chaqa, vote kgray

[ghug]

Alright, I suggest catching up.

If you don't intend to catch up, vote me and then vote Jamie.

If you've caught up and still think he's scum, vote Jamie twice.
If you've caught up and now think he's town, vote Jamie thrice.

If you want to sheep Chaqa, vote kgray

If you find yourself wanting to sheep Chaqa, contact your doctor immediately.

[Vecna]

I really feel like Macca is not the answer here. Still a solid townread.

The only thing really giving me pause on kgray at this point is that she was a plausible Maniac target, but that really just means scum have a faith healer if she is scum, so I'm ok with her as a wagon.

Bunny and Seth have been coasting long enough that I can't townread either in good conscience anymore.

What has Macca actually done besides continuously pretending/showing they have no clue about the mechanics of the game? And every time after called out they does the "oh I did somethign silly again"? And instead of figuring out what it is, he waits for people to point it out.

If you really would feel embarassed about it, you'd try to fix it after the first time, no? Not double down and bank on it completely?

How did they act when they were scum in past games?

Trying to scoot under the radar with minimal effort. Not very diffirent as town, but at least then there seemed to be some semblence of trying to solve

[Vecna]

She claimed she wasn't saved.

Interestingly, she would not know.
The Faith Healer is told if they save the life of the target.
The target is apparently *not* told they have been saved.
This is what the GM said to me when I asked.

Hold on.
@kgray... Any comment on this?

she claimed she wasnt targetted by Maniac...nothing about not being saved

[worcej]

I don't see much benefit to the double voter claiming today.

##CALL GM Can you nag Flum and remind him he's still playing?

I didn't need to nor would I. He is under no obligation to continue playing.

[ghug]

Interestingly, she would not know.
The Faith Healer is told if they save the life of the target.
The target is apparently *not* told they have been saved.
This is what the GM said to me when I asked.

Hold on.
@kgray... Any comment on this?

she claimed she wasnt targetted by Maniac...nothing about not being saved

These mean the same thing.

This line of questioning bores me.

[Vecna]

I am here. What do you want from me?

I am a 100% confirmed vanilla town and you should know it by now.

indeed I should. But I dont. And that is not something u can blame on me for once

I blame it more on me, but I also blame a bit on you for not really engaging until today (and voting HR).

Why do you need me to engage to be able to towntell?

[Vecna]

Also flum, Jamiet is pretty much obvtown.

If you want to be lazy and sheep town, just sheep me. Im universally townread now

[Chaqa]

Also flum, Jamiet is pretty much obvtown.

If you want to be lazy and sheep town, just sheep me. Im universally townread now

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