M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

actually tempting me rdrivera

[damo666]

Jamie is clearly town healer and saved himself but the narcissistic nit in him made him assume he was Maniac target.

I doubt Maniac targeted Jamie, I think Jamie forgot there are 2 healers.

I think Maniac would have targeted either Seth or kgray. In both cases I can't see them being saved by another town healer so whichever was the target either town self saved or is scum with the latter being more probable.

I think scumghug is toying with us and having a ball. My vote stays there but I would be willing to switch to either kgray or Seth if those wagons are more viable than ghug's close to EOD.

I'm disappointed in Jamie, I think it's virtually impossible for us to win now but we must try. It is essential we daykill scum today.

Do you know Doctor and the saved player got a message saying that a save happened, don't you? So, how this make any sense? Are you still drunk or just tryng to fake a townslip or something?

I don't understand you.

[damo666]

@Jamie how's the hangover?

[damo666]

@rdr please explain yourself

I see nothing wrong with my logic. I don't see how messages impinge on it at all (apart from the fact that I have virtually admitted I am not a healer).

[damo666]

what happened to your scumread of me

I assume this is directed at me.

It is weaker than my proposed daykill candidates.

[TheMadMonarch]

Very interesting.

Firstly, I scumread you, and definitely think that this is possible (if not likely).

Secondly, I scumread ghug, and think that this is a thing he could have lied about.

Thirdly, I scumread you more than ghug, so I'm still game to vote you. If you come up town, then I will be certain that ghug is not.

Therefore, one of you two is definitely scum, so voting one to test is a good idea, since we have the people spare to afford 1 miskill, as long as the next isn't, which it won't be.

You know, I feel this may be a genuine dumbslip.

really? You remembered ghug talking about that?

For someone thats apparently not aware of the setup, has very few posts, how does Macca know Ghug made that statement at some point? I sure didnt (remember).

I assume these questions are directed at me?

I know because I read it, then replied, pulling it back to the top. A page or two later kgray made this post.

[Vecna]

You know, I feel this may be a genuine dumbslip.

really? You remembered ghug talking about that?

For someone thats apparently not aware of the setup, has very few posts, how does Macca know Ghug made that statement at some point? I sure didnt (remember).

I assume these questions are directed at me?

I know because I read it, then replied, pulling it back to the top. A page or two later kgray made this post.

Yeah, I just went and reread it....

-Your first post of today, you respond to Ghug saying hi to you in real time
-Your second post, a minute later, you suddenly quote a post from Ghug that happened more than a day earlier
Your third post of today, again a minute later, you interact with a post I made in real time.

So.....in a time frame of three minutes, you respond to two "live posts" and that weird post from ghug (that was made 24h earlier or more) in between those posts.

Then two pages later, Kgray responds to that post in particular, and you have this reply that is once again meant to just show how clueless you are of scum nightkills.



This just feels like compelling evidence to me that the two of you are scum together. And that this was planned.

[Vecna]

##vote Macca

[dargorygel]

Well, things calmed down.

@Jamie, I believe you. Could you explain why you claimed at this time?

[Vecna]

ghug might be in on it too.

so how did you go from making those 2 other posts, and just happened to quote that ghug post in between that happened during the night phase?

[Vecna]

read my above post and let me know what u think darg

[Vecna]

mr hangover is back

[dargorygel]

Concerning macca.
I realize that he is fairly (but not completely) inexperienced. But that is not a free pass.

I noted before the 'connection' with kgray. Their (Macca's) response was a quick denial, including a vote-record-quote, and a diversion. And then now a vote for kgray.

I have been townreading kgray until this morning. But a) I am not satisfied with the potential buddying of me. b) I am now agreeing that kgray's digging this game has been surface (other than a couple of particular angry bouts.)

Today looks to me like a hooked scum, trying to spit out the hook.

##VOTE Macca

[dargorygel]

read my above post and let me know what u think darg

I did... and it continued/confirmed my thinking.

[Jamiet99uk]

There are some VCA reasons to suspect him, and Maniac was apparently feeling strong enough about it to shoot him, but Maniac isn't fullproof and Jamiet doesn't feel like his scum self to me, especially right now.

What is "fullproof" ?
I do not know this word.

[dargorygel]

Perhaps we need to keep today an ongoing of "willing to daykill" list going, to facilitate working together.

It would also allow us to clearly know how NOT to work together with our scumreads? Individually...

I would daykill (tr) today among macca, bunny, seth, and kgray. I also suspect chaqa, but not quite ready to kill there.

Bozo needs to compile the list for us.

[dargorygel]

There are some VCA reasons to suspect him, and Maniac was apparently feeling strong enough about it to shoot him, but Maniac isn't fullproof and Jamiet doesn't feel like his scum self to me, especially right now.

What is "fullproof" ?
I do not know this word.

It means Maniac is just FULL of proofs...

[Vecna]

I wouldnt be too surprised if the scumteam is actually just Macca-Kgray-Ghug-Chaqa

Either chaqa or ghug could be replaced by -maybe- rdrivera/Damo

[Jamiet99uk]

@rdr please explain yourself

I see nothing wrong with my logic. I don't see how messages impinge on it at all (apart from the fact that I have virtually admitted I am not a healer).

1. I chose to protect myself last night, thinking that Maniac would target me.
2. Maniac was killed, and he was the Vengeful.
3. I got a message telling me that I had successfully saved my target (i.e. myself) from death.
4. Nobody else died.

So it's 100% confirmed that Maniac targeted me, Maniac was the scum NK target, and I would have died too if I hadn't protected myself. Unless you think I am lying about my role.

[Vecna]

(and yes, both chaqa and macca trying to bus Kgray fits very well in there since thatd allow them to sail to victory quite comfortably afterwards)