M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[worcej]

Vote Count:
bo_sox48 (4) ghug, rdrivera2005, Macca573, damo666
kgray (2) Chaqa, Vecna
seth24c (2) BunnyGo, dargorygel
Maniac (2) Jamiet99uk, bo_sox48
Chaqa (1) kgray

Maniac and seth24c need to vote.

Bo is set to be a loser on this game show thing.

57 minutes left.

[Chaqa]

Chaqa, will you move without bo's consent if kgray is not a viable wagon EoD?

Why do you townread me as strongly as the people who've given mechanical reasons to be townread?

I mean, I wasn't REALLY planning to not move my vote at all if push came to shove. But I think it's odd bo never said I could, no?

As for the townread, it's just my ghug radar? I used to be able to pin you as scum super easy too if you remember lol

[rdrivera2005]

I have a sudden family crisis to deal and will probably miss EOD.

I will not change my vote now, but for the record I still want to kill Chaqa.

[dargorygel]

I have a sudden family crisis to deal and will probably miss EOD.

I will not change my vote now, but for the record I still want to kill Chaqa.

Hope that all is ok rdr.

[kgray]

Youre set to be a fast run-away wagon to save scum here, so you better do something so people see im right

Who is the "you" in this?

seth

[ghug]

Ok I’m here. Sorry I have been very busy the last several days. I doubt I’ll be able to catch up with everything before the phase so please let me know if there are outstanding questions for me.

Lots of names on your death list, seth. But here is a repost of my reasoning.
I am not thrilled with Maniac's game going all the way to EoD. Others have said this, though. And I do not 'get' his game (although I am thinking that he is charting people's choices/reactions... but I don't see the strong value.) But his game DID cause me to think about seth.
It took until page 56 for him to do more than call people 'null.' He said there that folk were ‘on his radar.’ But we haven’t seen radar/sonar/star trek sensors at all so far.
#1118 Post by seth24c » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:49 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:48 pm
seth24c wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:47 pm
I'm here. Still haven't been convinced on either wagon.
You must vote.

Who are your top scumreads?

Do you even have one?
All three of the top wagons have been on my radar. Can't decide whether flums reaction test was malicious or just a bad idea.


A few pages later in post 1354, he calls rdrivera ‘scummy.’ I cannot find any other reads that lead to anything but null, or at best, 'iffy,' or 'on his radar.'

This is not hedgy. This is not declaring anything, let alone declaring and backpedaling.

This is a game that feels a lot more like pure vanilla, yes? We have roles, but deducing them does not discover alignment. I think seth is scum who is trying to fly under the radar… even his own.

##VOTE SETH24C

It's really hard to read posts when they're structured like this.

[seth24c]

Ok I’m here. Sorry I have been very busy the last several days. I doubt I’ll be able to catch up with everything before the phase so please let me know if there are outstanding questions for me.

Lots of names on your death list, seth. But here is a repost of my reasoning.
I am not thrilled with Maniac's game going all the way to EoD. Others have said this, though. And I do not 'get' his game (although I am thinking that he is charting people's choices/reactions... but I don't see the strong value.) But his game DID cause me to think about seth.
It took until page 56 for him to do more than call people 'null.' He said there that folk were ‘on his radar.’ But we haven’t seen radar/sonar/star trek sensors at all so far.
#1118 Post by seth24c » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:49 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:48 pm
seth24c wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:47 pm
I'm here. Still haven't been convinced on either wagon.
You must vote.

Who are your top scumreads?

Do you even have one?
All three of the top wagons have been on my radar. Can't decide whether flums reaction test was malicious or just a bad idea.


A few pages later in post 1354, he calls rdrivera ‘scummy.’ I cannot find any other reads that lead to anything but null, or at best, 'iffy,' or 'on his radar.'

This is not hedgy. This is not declaring anything, let alone declaring and backpedaling.

This is a game that feels a lot more like pure vanilla, yes? We have roles, but deducing them does not discover alignment. I think seth is scum who is trying to fly under the radar… even his own.

##VOTE SETH24C

My top suspects as of pg 131 and wagon analysis are kgray, bo, and rdr.

I think there’s a good chance of two scum being in there.

I don’t understand what happened with maniac but I see he wants to force the votes between me him and bo. Why is that happening?

[kgray]

I have a sudden family crisis to deal and will probably miss EOD.

I will not change my vote now, but for the record I still want to kill Chaqa.

Why not vote Chaqa then??

[seth24c]

Bo is on my scumread list now because I also think he tried to townslip a couple pages back.

[rdrivera2005]

I have a sudden family crisis to deal and will probably miss EOD.

I will not change my vote now, but for the record I still want to kill Chaqa.

Hope that all is ok rdr.

Nothing serious, I am out of town, yesterday was a holiday and I am working remote and expected to stay until tomorrow, but my wife had a pressentia meeting and I will need to drive home. Now waiting my daughter to pack, maybe I won't miss EOD....

But thanks for your concern.

[rdrivera2005]

I have a sudden family crisis to deal and will probably miss EOD.

I will not change my vote now, but for the record I still want to kill Chaqa.

Why not vote Chaqa then??

I don't think it's a viable wagon now, specially with Maniac shenanigans.

By the way, if Bo flips scum I think Dargo is also scum, he is trying really hard to get another wagon going.

[dargorygel]

[/quote]

My top suspects as of pg 131 and wagon analysis are kgray, bo, and rdr.

I think there’s a good chance of two scum being in there.

I don’t understand what happened with maniac but I see he wants to force the votes between me him and bo. Why is that happening?
[/quote]

Did you have suspects before page 131? I realize that my cut and paste DID make my argument difficult to follow. But in essence, it looks to me like you have refrained from making any sort of commitments... other than the occasional, 'null.'

[dargorygel]

sigh. sorry for the poor formatting again.

[ghug]

Chaqa, will you move without bo's consent if kgray is not a viable wagon EoD?

Why do you townread me as strongly as the people who've given mechanical reasons to be townread?

I mean, I wasn't REALLY planning to not move my vote at all if push came to shove. But I think it's odd bo never said I could, no?

As for the townread, it's just my ghug radar? I used to be able to pin you as scum super easy too if you remember lol

No, that never happened.

[ghug]

Bo is on my scumread list now because I also think he tried to townslip a couple pages back.

Oof, do not like this post

[Chaqa]

Chaqa, will you move without bo's consent if kgray is not a viable wagon EoD?

Why do you townread me as strongly as the people who've given mechanical reasons to be townread?

I mean, I wasn't REALLY planning to not move my vote at all if push came to shove. But I think it's odd bo never said I could, no?

As for the townread, it's just my ghug radar? I used to be able to pin you as scum super easy too if you remember lol

No, that never happened.

Don't make me go do digging man... it's mostly pre-peterbot

[seth24c]

My top suspects as of pg 131 and wagon analysis are kgray, bo, and rdr.

I think there’s a good chance of two scum being in there.

I don’t understand what happened with maniac but I see he wants to force the votes between me him and bo. Why is that happening?
[/quote]

Did you have suspects before page 131? I realize that my cut and paste DID make my argument difficult to follow. But in essence, it looks to me like you have refrained from making any sort of commitments... other than the occasional, 'null.'
[/quote]

Kgray was my top suspect. I also had time where I had suspected Jamie, teacon and rdr. But you’re right I didn’t put them out there as much as I was still evaluating and didn’t feel that I had anything concrete to push on them.

[ghug]

I mean, I wasn't REALLY planning to not move my vote at all if push came to shove. But I think it's odd bo never said I could, no?

As for the townread, it's just my ghug radar? I used to be able to pin you as scum super easy too if you remember lol

No, that never happened.

Don't make me go do digging man... it's mostly pre-peterbot

I remember you thinking you were able to pin me as scum super easy. Kinda like TrPrado.

[seth24c]

Bo is on my scumread list now because I also think he tried to townslip a couple pages back.

Oof, do not like this post

Every time you do this I wonder if you’re scum for the third time in a row.

[dargorygel]

My top suspects as of pg 131 and wagon analysis are kgray, bo, and rdr.

I think there’s a good chance of two scum being in there.

I don’t understand what happened with maniac but I see he wants to force the votes between me him and bo. Why is that happening?

Did you have suspects before page 131? I realize that my cut and paste DID make my argument difficult to follow. But in essence, it looks to me like you have refrained from making any sort of commitments... other than the occasional, 'null.'
[/quote]

Kgray was my top suspect. I also had time where I had suspected Jamie, teacon and rdr. But you’re right I didn’t put them out there as much as I was still evaluating and didn’t feel that I had anything concrete to push on them.
[/quote]

Do you recall the process of your change from early undocumented days to this afternoon's feelings? (Other than teacon, obviously.)