M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

Hi ghug

[Vecna]

I dont want Seth killed.

Bo or Kgray is whatever (prefer Kgray)

[BunnyGo]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

I think it's odd you've decided to play today even worse than Maniac...regardless of your read of kgray, if you're town this su**s

[Vecna]

wait, why is the deadline suddenly an hour later now

[kgray]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

ghug was not eager to do so. He fought me on it a ton.

[Chaqa]

So, of the players still alive, I'm not willing to vote for:
ghug
Maniac
Vecna

I've got mild townreads on bo, Jamiet, and Dargo, so I'm not jumping to vote for them right now.

This leaves:
Bunny
Damo
kgray
Macca
Rivera
Seth

As the group I'd vote for today (though I'm on kgray until bo says I can move, I still prefer her as my #1 vote).

[ghug]

Eh. I don't get any scum vibes from it. Seems he's just implying his role is a positive-costed one.

I read it as "my role is expensive".

That isn't what he actually said, though. My take is his role is in the 5 to 15ish cost region.

Why would he even bother saying it if that's not what he meant.

Even if we disagree on the definition of expensive (I used 10), I think saying you're not important while implying you're important is a scummy way of encouraging people to move off of you.

[BunnyGo]

wait, why is the deadline suddenly an hour later now

You've just non-US slipped.

[Chaqa]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

I think it's odd you've decided to play today even worse than Maniac...regardless of your read of kgray, if you're town this su**s

I disagree. I don't usually do things like this, but I think the reactions and insight I got into several players was extremely valuable, and I'm pretty sure I've caught kgray.

[ghug]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

ghug was not eager to do so. He fought me on it a ton.

I was just happy something finally had you mad.

[Chaqa]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

ghug was not eager to do so. He fought me on it a ton.

I read that as him trying to get a reaction out of you more than any actual desire to prevent me changing my vote.

[dargorygel]

wait, why is the deadline suddenly an hour later now

You've just non-US slipped.

Time ALWAYS changes on election day over here. We are stuck in some weird agonizing hour stretching hour shrinking thing.

[kgray]

So, of the players still alive, I'm not willing to vote for:
ghug
Maniac
Vecna

I've got mild townreads on bo, Jamiet, and Dargo, so I'm not jumping to vote for them right now.

This leaves:
Bunny
Damo
kgray
Macca
Rivera
Seth

As the group I'd vote for today (though I'm on kgray until bo says I can move, I still prefer her as my #1 vote).

bo will probably not be back before EOD

[seth24c]

Ok I’m here. Sorry I have been very busy the last several days. I doubt I’ll be able to catch up with everything before the phase so please let me know if there are outstanding questions for me.

[Chaqa]

I read it as "my role is expensive".

That isn't what he actually said, though. My take is his role is in the 5 to 15ish cost region.

Why would he even bother saying it if that's not what he meant.

Even if we disagree on the definition of expensive (I used 10), I think saying you're not important while implying you're important is a scummy way of encouraging people to move off of you.

I suppose it could be. But it's bo, he is kinda the worst.

[Vecna]

Youre set to be a fast run-away wagon to save scum here, so you better do something so people see im right

[Chaqa]

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

ghug was not eager to do so. He fought me on it a ton.

I was just happy something finally had you mad.

I do think it's odd bo hasn't "released" my vote off kgray yet, though (unless I missed it) since ghug and Jamiet were very eager to do so.

ghug was not eager to do so. He fought me on it a ton.

I read that as him trying to get a reaction out of you more than any actual desire to prevent me changing my vote.

Warm and fuzzies firmly returned

[ghug]

Chaqa, will you move without bo's consent if kgray is not a viable wagon EoD?

Why do you townread me as strongly as the people who've given mechanical reasons to be townread?

[dargorygel]

Ok I’m here. Sorry I have been very busy the last several days. I doubt I’ll be able to catch up with everything before the phase so please let me know if there are outstanding questions for me.

Lots of names on your death list, seth. But here is a repost of my reasoning.
I am not thrilled with Maniac's game going all the way to EoD. Others have said this, though. And I do not 'get' his game (although I am thinking that he is charting people's choices/reactions... but I don't see the strong value.) But his game DID cause me to think about seth.
It took until page 56 for him to do more than call people 'null.' He said there that folk were ‘on his radar.’ But we haven’t seen radar/sonar/star trek sensors at all so far.
#1118 Post by seth24c » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:49 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:48 pm
seth24c wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:47 pm
I'm here. Still haven't been convinced on either wagon.
You must vote.

Who are your top scumreads?

Do you even have one?
All three of the top wagons have been on my radar. Can't decide whether flums reaction test was malicious or just a bad idea.


A few pages later in post 1354, he calls rdrivera ‘scummy.’ I cannot find any other reads that lead to anything but null, or at best, 'iffy,' or 'on his radar.'

This is not hedgy. This is not declaring anything, let alone declaring and backpedaling.

This is a game that feels a lot more like pure vanilla, yes? We have roles, but deducing them does not discover alignment. I think seth is scum who is trying to fly under the radar… even his own.

##VOTE SETH24C

[Chaqa]

Youre set to be a fast run-away wagon to save scum here, so you better do something so people see im right

Who is the "you" in this?