M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE MANIAC

I stick to my verdict that he is scum. He is not helping town nor does he seem to care very much about anything other than himself.

[damo666]

Kgray
Bo_Sox
Dargorygel

Thanks

Why and why those 3? (I will do your survey though and Bo is the scummiest of the imo)

I have my reasons Damo but I don't want scum or town to just repeat back my thoughts.

Ok

[ghug]

##VOTE MANIAC

I stick to my verdict that he is scum. He is not helping town nor does he seem to care very much about anything other than himself.

Do you think that scum didn't recruit?

What motivation do you think scum Maniac would have to pull this stunt?

[kgray]

I support everyone voting for these three.

I pick bo, or kgray if I succeed in killing bo

So you're alright with his game when his options include people you want dead? How convenient.

I support everyone voting for their scumreads. I think his game is stupid, but now I will play it, because not playing would mean not voting for my scumreads.

What do you think of Maniac's game?

I agree with you for when it comes to actually voting for the DK - narrowing down options is silly - but I don't have a problem with his survey. I'm not convinced he's town but I don't see the harm in participating even if he's scum.

@Maniac why do you need the votes to be real votes? And if you're insistent about this I think you should change the deadline to be sooner. Two hours isn't enough time for the "real" D3 vote.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE MANIAC

I stick to my verdict that he is scum. He is not helping town nor does he seem to care very much about anything other than himself.

Do you think that scum didn't recruit?

What motivation do you think scum Maniac would have to pull this stunt?

He prematurely thought he was going to be a lead wagon today and has decided to take one for the team, presumably trying to nail a useful town PR in rewenge.

You think Maniac is helping town with his little circus act?

[kgray]

I mean, there's also the fact that Maniac isn't at all required to choose the person we vote for. If he's scum then he's just wasting our time with this and is going to target town anyway.

[ghug]

##VOTE MANIAC

I stick to my verdict that he is scum. He is not helping town nor does he seem to care very much about anything other than himself.

Do you think that scum didn't recruit?

What motivation do you think scum Maniac would have to pull this stunt?

He prematurely thought he was going to be a lead wagon today and has decided to take one for the team, presumably trying to nail a useful town PR in rewenge.

You think Maniac is helping town with his little circus act?

It's well-established that Maniac is capable of terrible town play.

Why wouldn't he just make himself target a townie and not claim vengeful if he were scum?

Why are you ignoring how unlikely it is that Vengeful would be a scum role?

[ghug]

I mean, there's also the fact that Maniac isn't at all required to choose the person we vote for. If he's scum then he's just wasting our time with this and is going to target town anyway.

All the more reason to ignore his demand for votes and play the game like normal.

[ghug]

Jamie, the fact that I'm townreading you for this Maniac push is indicative that you too are capable of terrible town play.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Bo

I am playing Maniac little game, I don't see why scum Vengeful would do that. If he was scum and close to being killed, just claim a usefull PR and either scape kill or use his power on the Counter Claim.

It's contradictory but I town read Jamiet for pushing Maniac's lynch, I don't think scum will push it, scum will just sit back and try to get a double town kill.

[ghug]

##vote Bo

I am playing Maniac little game, I don't see why scum Vengeful would do that. If he was scum and close to being killed, just claim a usefull PR and either scape kill or use his power on the Counter Claim.

It's contradictory but I town read Jamiet for pushing Maniac's HKAKFJBSBJSISKKSNSBDVBSDJFNFHF, I don't think scum will push it, scum will just sit back and try to get a double town kill.

[Chaqa]

If Maniac is scum, daykilling him is a 1:1 town to scum trade. We take that any day.

If Maniac is town, daykilling him could be two dead townies for no dead scum. That would essentially ruin town's chances of winning.

Town Maniac wouldn't do a risky play like this, would he?

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean, there's also the fact that Maniac isn't at all required to choose the person we vote for. If he's scum then he's just wasting our time with this and is going to target town anyway.

All the more reason to ignore his demand for votes and play the game like normal.

I agree with all of this, to be honest.

[dargorygel]

If Maniac is scum, daykilling him is a 1:1 town to scum trade. We take that any day.

If Maniac is town, daykilling him could be two dead townies for no dead scum. That would essentially ruin town's chances of winning.

Town Maniac wouldn't do a risky play like this, would he?

Unless he is town, but VERY confident in his scum read. But then the game does not make sense.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Maniac: If you are town, why would you want to be daykilled? Surely it is much better to target your top scumread with your power, and not announce this, and have us leave you alive? That way, scum will be taking a huge risk if they NK you.

How is your current proposal the optimal town play for your role?

(Please also answer my other questions, which you have so far failed to answer - including my question about how you didn't notice Ghug was voting for Bo).

[Jamiet99uk]

##UNVOTE

[ghug]

If Maniac is scum, daykilling him is a 1:1 town to scum trade. We take that any day.

If Maniac is town, daykilling him could be two dead townies for no dead scum. That would essentially ruin town's chances of winning.

Town Maniac wouldn't do a risky play like this, would he?

How does it make any sense as scum?

[ghug]

Do you think that scum didn't recruit?

What motivation do you think scum Maniac would have to pull this stunt?

He prematurely thought he was going to be a lead wagon today and has decided to take one for the team, presumably trying to nail a useful town PR in rewenge.

You think Maniac is helping town with his little circus act?

It's well-established that Maniac is capable of terrible town play.

Why wouldn't he just make himself target a townie and not claim vengeful if he were scum?

Why are you ignoring how unlikely it is that Vengeful would be a scum role?

Jamie, you still haven't answered this question.

[ghug]

These questions/this post*

[ghug]

Hi Macca