M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

I'm happy lynching Chaqa, how about you, Veknar?

I was yesterday, but im starting to feel he's just been lazy. The way he's approaching Kgray here.....its throwing me off and giving me townpings.

It feels to me like he's really certain he caught Kgray as scum and is just rubbing it in her face that nothing she does will dissuade him.

Maybe im wrong, its very thin.

[damo666]

why did you ignore my reply damo

Not intentionally. No time to search so if important repeat quote or give post ref. Ta.

[Vecna]

man, I did see it yesterday while drinking, but this is really ridiculous. It does not impact the game at all, just 2 mins late, was not intentional at all, yet it completely fucks us in the ass

It is not ridiculous. It is unfortunate.
HB started his post saying he was typing at EON and given the length of post and its timestamp of 02 HB must have known (or at least strongly suspected) the post was after EON when he hit 'Submit'.

It's a nuisance for town but I support the decision. Rules are rules.

If people want to post a read list at the last minute have it pre prepared, not start to type it up at the last minute.

My townread on Vecna weakens. I smell faux outrage.

This shit literally happens on 50% of phase changes. Never has anyone ever been killed for it. Give people a 1 game ban if you have to do something. Dont fuck over the current game because you want to make a point.

Your nose is terrible. Why am I fake?

[Jamiet99uk]

It's an offensive word to many. Please do not use the 'L' word. Or else.

Shit sorry. I really do know that. It's just a word we've used for so long in this game. I apologise.

[dargorygel]

It's an offensive word to many. Please do not use the 'L' word. Or else.

Shit sorry. I really do know that. It's just a word we've used for so long in this game. I apologise.

It is very hard to form new habits.

[damo666]

It is not ridiculous. It is unfortunate.
HB started his post saying he was typing at EON and given the length of post and its timestamp of 02 HB must have known (or at least strongly suspected) the post was after EON when he hit 'Submit'.

It's a nuisance for town but I support the decision. Rules are rules.

If people want to post a read list at the last minute have it pre prepared, not start to type it up at the last minute.

My townread on Vecna weakens. I smell faux outrage.

This shit literally happens on 50% of phase changes. Never has anyone ever been killed for it. Give people a 1 game ban if you have to do something. Dont fuck over the current game because you want to make a point.

Your nose is terrible. Why am I fake?

Thanks.

I was townreading you and it probably isn't fake but I'm not discounting the possibility and publicising the fact. I'd put it at 90/10 and am certainly not advocating your daykill. Happy?

[damo666]

It's an offensive word to many. Please do not use the 'L' word. Or else.

Shit sorry. I really do know that. It's just a word we've used for so long in this game. I apologise.

Can you avoid shit. It stinks.

[damo666]

It's an offensive word to many. Please do not use the 'L' word. Or else.

Shit sorry. I really do know that. It's just a word we've used for so long in this game. I apologise.

It is very hard to form new habits.

Is that why there are a lack of monks?

[dargorygel]

From the Maniac list...
Bunny go.
Three reasons:
A) his case on me is scummy. His opening premise is that I was trying to break the game. That was the reason he started looking at me, he says. The rest of his case flowed from that alone. The reason I found that scummy is that he was not doing an iso to discover alignment, but rather to prove his point. He disregarded my comments on this earlier.
B) we have not seen drunkbunny. (Trademark pending) DB is a powerful tool for town, but DBs team would likely urge him to be boring sober bunny.
C) omgus...
So, ##vote bunnygo

[dargorygel]

Shit sorry. I really do know that. It's just a word we've used for so long in this game. I apologise.

It is very hard to form new habits.

That and the vows of silence
Is that why there are a lack of monks?

[Jamiet99uk]

That being said,
@Jamie
You asked repeatedly about my vote switching. I do not recall ALL of it. But here is what I do recall. I was suspicious of Teacon. When I guessed that he was dropping crumbs for my role, he was my top vote. But then Maniac wrote a post that stuck in my mind. He gave a bunch of reasons on page 96 to vote for you.
@seth @ Ghug

Case against Jamie

Clear flum has picked up a strong tell
I think he knows Teacon will be a mis-kill
If he flips scum the Fruit Vender is likely town
If he flips scum teacon is clear
We can re-look at D1 voting
The thread is much more readable -

I can’t see any better candidates

So I switched to you… I was strongly townreading Maniac, and the FV comment made it helpful to me if the OPPOSITE were also true. i.e. if I, the FV, were town, might that mean Jamie is scum.

You are now saying you moved to me because you thought I might be scum. You didn't say that at the time, you said your top scumread was Teacon but I might be a "revealing" flip.

I'm not going to tax your failing memory any further except to say that this remains highly unsatisfactory to me.

[dargorygel]

That is not what I said at all.
I said that Maniac's post of what we would learn from your flip pushed me to vote for you.
Because it would help establish MY towniness, according to Maniac.
Admittedly, it was selfish. I like town-clear status.
Admittedly, i did not fully understand maniac's point (although I had an idea that it had to do with your statements about whether FV was likely scum or town.) I might have asked Maniac to explain, but I didn't want to draw attention to my FV ness.

[damo666]

@darg was the banana dec a mistake?

[dargorygel]

@darg was the banana dec a mistake?

I did NOT intend to signal in here a banana. (Maybe I would have if I had a choice of what fruit to sell.) So teacon's prime reason to suspect was wrong. But I did drop a lot of "low hanging fruit" lines.

[Jamiet99uk]

@darg was the banana dec a mistake?

I did NOT intend to signal in here a banana. (Maybe I would have if I had a choice of what fruit to sell.) So teacon's prime reason to suspect was wrong. But I did drop a lot of "low hanging fruit" lines.

To whom else have you given a fruit? Vecna?

[Jamiet99uk]

That is not what I said at all.
I said that Maniac's post of what we would learn from your flip pushed me to vote for you.
Because it would help establish MY towniness, according to Maniac.
Admittedly, it was selfish. I like town-clear status.
Admittedly, i did not fully understand maniac's point (although I had an idea that it had to do with your statements about whether FV was likely scum or town.) I might have asked Maniac to explain, but I didn't want to draw attention to my FV ness.

Could you explain it now?

How would my flip have proved your alignment?

[damo666]

@darg was the banana dec a mistake?

I did NOT intend to signal in here a banana. (Maybe I would have if I had a choice of what fruit to sell.) So teacon's prime reason to suspect was wrong. But I did drop a lot of "low hanging fruit" lines.

I meant my declaration.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ironically I have just eaten a banana, in real life.

[Chaqa]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

I'm Vengeful

How do i verify this? Well you're all going to kill me today.

Before you do, you have to decide who I'm going to take with me.

So you must all now vote only for the following people

Vecna
Chaqa
Bunny
Ghug
Seth

At EOD -27hrs, I'll remove 1 person from that list.
At EOD -26hrs, I'll remove another person from that list
At EOD -25hrs, I'll remove a third person from that list

The vote count at EOD -24hrs will determine who I take with me.

I will obviously be weighting the voting so if I think you're scum you're vote will count less than if I think you're solid town.

I won't be commenting on why I have selected these people. I don't want you all to repeat my thoughts back to me. Go out and make your own cases on these five people.

Many of you will say I've gone too early, perhaps, but some solid town reads have indicated that I'm high on their scum list. Mafia could have anywhere between 3-5 votes. They could so easily get me killed today, so I need (we need) a good town kill.

See you all at EOD - 27hrs.

@@Flum - obviously just vote for one of these. Don't sheep anyone.

Well I don’t love this list as two of them are town reads and one is me.

I would vote BunnyGo or Seth. But I’m not changing my vote because if I do people will say I’m backing off kgray or some BS

[Chaqa]

Ah I see Maniac claims vengeful.

We think this is a scum claim, yes?

That is, it may be his correct role - but if we daykill him today, then we are handing scum a double NK tonight, in effect.

Clever play, Maniac.

Is trading his life as scum even a good play right now? Mafia are at 3 or 4 people, they probably wouldn’t risk this play after a free town death on Hamilton. I tend to think Maniac is either town Vengeful or town fake claiming