M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[BunnyGo]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already happened before demanding a thousand explanations from the GM?

There's a backup. I'm reading the roles, and trying to finally sit and spend an evening thinking about things.

The diarist matters because maybe they learned something about HR? Maybe they knew something.

The Governor matters because I don't know how the role works (except it says "not public" but doesn't say if it resolves to no-day kill or to 2nd place day kill).

[BunnyGo]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already been demanded before demanding a thousand fewer demands from the demander?

Are you castigating me or Jamie? I am taking his advice to play like I have before, and reading more. I have time tonight. I have questions when I read more.

[BunnyGo]

##CALL GM in the case that the diarist targeted the non-consecutive night commuter, what would they have been told?

Why is this information useful?

Unclear. I like to know what other people may have known. Helps to get in their heads.

[TheMadMonarch]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already been demanded before demanding a thousand fewer demands from the demander?

Are you castigating me or Jamie? I am taking his advice to play like I have before, and reading more. I have time tonight. I have questions when I read more.

This is directed at Jamie. "Demanding a thousand fewer demands from the Demander [you]"

[BunnyGo]

Some thoughts on EOD:

Vecna/Maniac/Chaqa all independently cast their vote to break the tie between Dargo and HR by voting HR.

There seemed to be a large contingent of "not HR" that had a split vote on Dargo, Maniac, and Teacon. Previously on Kgray too, and also Jamie.

bo was around, and while he declared he thought HR was town, declined to vote Dargo.


If Dargo is town, then I wouldn't be surprised if bo is scum (I'd have said the same of Teacon, but RIP...)

Likewise, if Dargo is scum, I'd be surprised if bo is scum because I'd expect him to save his teammate. However this makes Vecna/Maniac/Chaqa all look more suspicious. If Dargo is scum, then we'll certainly find at least 1 if not 2 there.

[BunnyGo]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already been demanded before demanding a thousand fewer demands from the demander?

Are you castigating me or Jamie? I am taking his advice to play like I have before, and reading more. I have time tonight. I have questions when I read more.

This is directed at Jamie. "Demanding a thousand fewer demands from the Demander [you]"

Ah, ok.

Since you've caught up. Have you any thoughts on EOD1 or EOD2 voting?

[BunnyGo]

Oh man...I missed the Flum vote in my EOD analysis. Kgray was a higher wagon by 1 that whole time.

Also, secretly Teacon had an extra vote.

[BunnyGo]

Hellenic Riot (7) Jamiet99uk, seth24c, Hamilton Brian, dargorygel, Vecna, Maniac, Chaqa

dargorygel (4) BunnyGo, Hellenic Riot, ghug, kgray

Maniac (3) bo_sox48, teacon7, rdrivera2005

teacon7 (1 + Secret Double Vote) damo666

Kgray (1) Fluminator

[TheMadMonarch]

Are you castigating me or Jamie? I am taking his advice to play like I have before, and reading more. I have time tonight. I have questions when I read more.

This is directed at Jamie. "Demanding a thousand fewer demands from the Demander [you]"

Ah, ok.

Since you've caught up. Have you any thoughts on EOD1 or EOD2 voting?

EOD1

I hadn't followed the events exactly as they unfolded, but I had been pretty sus of Flum (I was wrong, oh well.) so I could understand why it occurred.


EOD2
To be frank, I was completely out of it. As well as forgetting to cast a vote, I was not processing the things I was reading. As I mentioned before, the only thing I took away from Day 2 is the I don't trust Bo_ any more. I don't remember why, I just don't trust him.

In that, a lot of unexplained votes for Maniac are coming in, what's that about?

[BunnyGo]

This is directed at Jamie. "Demanding a thousand fewer demands from the Demander [you]"

Ah, ok.

Since you've caught up. Have you any thoughts on EOD1 or EOD2 voting?

EOD1

I hadn't followed the events exactly as they unfolded, but I had been pretty sus of Flum (I was wrong, oh well.) so I could understand why it occurred.


EOD2
To be frank, I was completely out of it. As well as forgetting to cast a vote, I was not processing the things I was reading. As I mentioned before, the only thing I took away from Day 2 is the I don't trust Bo_ any more. I don't remember why, I just don't trust him.

In that, a lot of unexplained votes for Maniac are coming in, what's that about?

Maybe you should place a vote now...just to not get modkilled.

I don't know why Maniac is getting votes now. He was my choice to vote for if I was going to pick between HR/Maniac/Jamie.

His vote to break the tie in the last minute for HR doesn't look good (especially if Dargo is scum).

[TheMadMonarch]

Ah, ok.

Since you've caught up. Have you any thoughts on EOD1 or EOD2 voting?

EOD1

I hadn't followed the events exactly as they unfolded, but I had been pretty sus of Flum (I was wrong, oh well.) so I could understand why it occurred.


EOD2
To be frank, I was completely out of it. As well as forgetting to cast a vote, I was not processing the things I was reading. As I mentioned before, the only thing I took away from Day 2 is the I don't trust Bo_ any more. I don't remember why, I just don't trust him.

In that, a lot of unexplained votes for Maniac are coming in, what's that about?

Maybe you should place a vote now...just to not get modkilled.

I don't know why Maniac is getting votes now. He was my choice to vote for if I was going to pick between HR/Maniac/Jamie.

His vote to break the tie in the last minute for HR doesn't look good (especially if Dargo is scum).

Ok then, just to be safe.

##VOTE Maniac


If this is the reason they're after Maniac, why aren't Vecna and Chaqa in the line of fire?

[TheMadMonarch]

If HB was the Neighbourizer, do we think he got both his shots off? There wasn't a cooldown on it, but, if he wasn't scared for his life (as his death was a suprise) he might have been saving one.

I can see why you would. You could get a private line to another player.

[kgray]

##Vote kgray

This vote is unlikely to change. I will only change it if all three of ghug, bo_sox, and Jamiet agree I should (though they don't have to agree to change it to the same person).

lmao ##vote chaqa

[TheMadMonarch]

##Vote kgray

This vote is unlikely to change. I will only change it if all three of ghug, bo_sox, and Jamiet agree I should (though they don't have to agree to change it to the same person).

lmao ##vote chaqa

This is funny?

[kgray]

hi

my and HRs answer to bozos question was correct.

scum caught me

I don't understand this and I don't think I trust it...

[kgray]

Ok. I can't say that I've read/processed everything, but here's the reads I've got.

Jamie is still very good. I trust them, and will likely sheep them today since I've missed a lot of what's gone on.

Ghug. Still don't like him. The posts I'm seeing now are same enough to what was before. Strongest scumlean.

Kgray. Liked her before, some of the stuff I'm seeing now I don't like. Definite scumlean.

Bo_. I did read a lot of the things while I was inactive, but I didn't process it properly. I've got a bit of a scumlean on Bo_, but I don't remember why.

Why are we the only people you've given reads on? What about Jamie makes you trust him? What are you seeing from ghug that you don't like? What is the new stuff from me that now makes you scumread me? Can you please try to find why you scumlean bo?

[kgray]

@Bozo

I'd recruit and take both trackers to spend my $90, and then go into debt to take the 1-Shot Follower as well, which would leave me with -$3, which you just NK N1 to get yourself back out of debt.

Maybe I'd consider also taking the Universal Backup and NK'ing a couple more times. Essentially the goal would be to make the scum team completely immune to being investigated.

@Vecna I couldn't find your answer to bozo anywhere. You didn't post it Day 1. Found this answer though.

I guess they must have done a variant of that because they still haven't held a NK...so either they're living on the edge, or they took something cheaper along with it.

hmm...unless Vecna scum and scum have a healer?

Another option is town shot at town!vecna...

Is it possible town killed teacon and scum tried to kill Vecna?

I'm taking on faith that Vecna was saved since a healer would know he saved him. That said...there are 2 healers, and they might EACH think the other saved him...

That'd be tricky...

You think the healers don't know who they visited?

[BunnyGo]

If HB was the Neighbourizer, do we think he got both his shots off? There wasn't a cooldown on it, but, if he wasn't scared for his life (as his death was a suprise) he might have been saving one.

I can see why you would. You could get a private line to another player.

I suppose if there's exactly 1 person left in the neighborhood they should let us know it is dead. If there are 0 or 2 people there, then not. Is there any reason a person shouldn't claim "recruited for neighborhood" if they're the only one?

[BunnyGo]

@Vecna I couldn't find your answer to bozo anywhere. You didn't post it Day 1. Found this answer though.

I guess they must have done a variant of that because they still haven't held a NK...so either they're living on the edge, or they took something cheaper along with it.

hmm...unless Vecna scum and scum have a healer?

Another option is town shot at town!vecna...

Is it possible town killed teacon and scum tried to kill Vecna?

I'm taking on faith that Vecna was saved since a healer would know he saved him. That said...there are 2 healers, and they might EACH think the other saved him...

That'd be tricky...

You think the healers don't know who they visited?

I think healers don't know who the other healer visited. So if Vecna claims a healer visited him, then Healer A would assume that Healer B did the visit and Healer B would assume that Healer A did the visit.

[kgray]

##Vote kgray

This vote is unlikely to change. I will only change it if all three of ghug, bo_sox, and Jamiet agree I should (though they don't have to agree to change it to the same person).

lmao ##vote chaqa

This is funny?

It's terrible. He claims his vote is unlikely to change and yet has given no real basis for it, and he's requiring that three people all agree for him to change it. Which means if they don't, he's giving himself an excuse to continue voting for me and not participate in voting.