M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[BunnyGo]

Hi

hello.

How are you?

Tired. You?

[BunnyGo]

Mafia have one NK per night. There is no mechanic which allows them to get more kills.

What's the difference between a follower and a tracker? The "1-shot" and "2-shot" terminology in the write up is very confusing. I keep thinking they are guns.

A follower learns what actions their target performs, but not who they visit.
A tracker learns who their target visits, but not what actions they perform.

"Shot" in that context refers to charges - i.e. the number of times they can use their action.

Is this your first game?

I knew that "shots" = "uses", but it just scans into my brain as "someone has a gun." I did not know the difference between a follower and tracker. I don't think I've ever played a game with both before.

You know it isn't my first game.

[Jamiet99uk]

What's Vecna claiming then?

Seemingly he was visited by more than one person last night. The most basic possibility is that he was both roleblocked and given a piece of fruit.

@Vecna: What kind of fruit did you get? Was it another banana?

[Jamiet99uk]

You know it isn't my first game.

Then try to behave accordingly.

[bo_sox48]

hello.

How are you?

Tired. You?

Tired too, but can't complain too much. Got food on the table and money in the bank, I don't have coronavirus, and the sun might actually come out this week.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm going to bed. I'll provide a summary of the Maniac case in the morning. Those who have been following the game should be aware of the main points of concern.

[bo_sox48]

##VOTE seth

[ghug]

##VOTE seth

Blegh

[ghug]

What happened to Maniac, bo?

[ghug]

##CALLGM How do mafia actions appear to the Voyeur?

[Donny Dude]

Votecount 3.0
Maniac --(2) Jamiet99uk, rdrivera2005
kgray --(1) Chaqa
seth24c --(1) bo_sox48
There is one day and 20 hours left approx.

[BunnyGo]

##CALL GM how does the Governor work? Can we not vote the target at all? Is there an announcement? If the target is the leading vote getter, then does the 2nd place automatically die or does nobody die?

[BunnyGo]

##CALL GM in the case that the diarist targeted the non-consecutive night commuter, what would they have been told?

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM how does the Governor work? Can we not vote the target at all? Is there an announcement? If the target is the leading vote getter, then does the 2nd place automatically die or does nobody die?

The Governor is dead, Bunny.

It was Bozo.

He's dead.

[Jamiet99uk]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already happened before demanding a thousand explanations from the GM?

[ghug]

##CALL GM how does the Governor work? Can we not vote the target at all? Is there an announcement? If the target is the leading vote getter, then does the 2nd place automatically die or does nobody die?

The Governor is dead, Bunny.

It was Bozo.

He's dead.

There's a new governor Jamie.

It's the Universal Backup.

He's alive.

[ghug]

Please would you actually make some effort to read what has already been demanded before demanding a thousand fewer demands from the demander?

[TheMadMonarch]

##CALL GM how does the Governor work? Can we not vote the target at all? Is there an announcement? If the target is the leading vote getter, then does the 2nd place automatically die or does nobody die?

The Governor is dead, Bunny.

It was Bozo.

He's dead.

No. The backup is now the Governor.

[TheMadMonarch]

##CALL GM in the case that the diarist targeted the non-consecutive night commuter, what would they have been told?

Why is this information useful?

[BunnyGo]

OK...EOD2 vote progression. Starting with dargo's move from Jamie to HR with 1:46 left.

I can relate.
Jamie"s reaction to being one of the wagons us to work on his PhD. That looks townie to me. I could vote for teacon again, or Maniac or HR. (Bozo too, but it for "replacement logic" and omgus.) Sheeping kgray(I like her cases) though, and going to HR. He and Maniac are at the same radar level.

##vote Hellenic Riot

Now who will jump?

This makes it 4 (HEL) - 3(MAN) - 2(JAM) - 2(KGR)

An hour later ghug is the next vote after responding to me about whether I'd join him on kgray (where he wasn't)

She had very open concoctions and pushed them strongly in our last game, when she was town. I'm seeing none of that here.

I would be open to killing darg as well.

4(HEL) - 3(MAN) - 2(KGR) - 2(TEA) -2 (DAR)

Next move is 5 minutes later by rdr

Damo got a pass until D3, so ##vote Maniac

I probably won't be around at EOD, I have a tennis game at the same time and I will be leaving to club 15 minutes to EOD, might be able to check before game start butv can't count on it.

Damo got a pass until today, so rdr tied the vote. It seemed like his vote (and mine, and many others I have not looked at) were voting for "not HR".

4(HEL) -4 (MAN) - 2(KGR) - 2(TEA) -2 (DAR)

10 minutes later (30 to go in the day)
ghug moves to kgray, responding to a comment of hers. He says "this is a fair point" and then votes her.

4(HEL) - 4(MAN) - 3 (KGR) - 2 (TEA)

Nothing happens for 20 minutes (vote wise), and with 11 to go HR naked votes dargo. This is very interesting, and should have confirmed that either he's a next level scum player or was not willing to vote Maniac to survive (nor to stay on kgray and get those to switch--nor to push Teacon to 3rd). It seems his only scumread of the possible wagons was dargo, with me be the only other voter.

4(HEL) -4(MAN) -2 (KGR/TEA/DAR)

Ghug instantly posts that this dargo feels like his old scummate dargo, and moves back there from kgray:

4(HEL) -4(MAN) - 3(DAR) -2 (TEA)

HR posts this explanation "As I mentioned above, I don't think kgray & darg are scum together, and I think the way Darg has disappeared since being called out for his vote is pretty damning." (Note: in retrospect this reasoning was incorrec, I'm glad Dargo is doing better. See @bo...things happen to people, I worry when they disappear).

With 6 minutes to go and in response to this Chaqa post "Okay I'm focused and here til EoD.

I would vote HR over Darg.

The last like five times Fargo was scum, he slipped up within the first day or so... he hasn't done that yet, so either he's not scum, or it's just a matter of time. I really think it would be wasteful to vote for him."

kgray says that's good enough for her to vote dargo.

4 (HEL/DAR) - 3 (MAN) - 2 (TEA)

Nothing happens to break this tie until Vecna, and then immediately Maniac and Chaqa vote for HEL. Bo_Sox meanwhile declined to move to dargo despite being convinced HEL was town (Hel called him on this).

The Vecna/Maniac/Chaqa votes were so close together that Chaqa claimed he was ninja'd. So I think we should consider all 3 of them as having been the 5th vote.

Thoughts to follow.