M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

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##Vote Teacon

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##Vote Teacon

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##Vote Teacon

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##Vote Teacon

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##Vote Ghug

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##Vote Seth

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##Vote Teacon

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##Vote Jamiet

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##Vote Bo_Sox

[TheMadMonarch]

I see that Flum is sending a message. I do not remember what that message should be...

[ghug]

He voted for bo to sheep me.

Then he voted for teacon four times to suggest we should think about it more.

Then he voted for me, Seth, and teacon, to suggest we're his townreads, with Jamie at the end as the signal the list was over.

Then he voted for bo to sheep me again.

[TheMadMonarch]

He voted for bo to sheep me.

Then he voted for teacon four times to suggest we should think about it more.

Then he voted for me, Seth, and teacon, to suggest we're his townreads, with Jamie at the end as the signal the list was over.

Then he voted for bo to sheep me again.

Thanks!

[Vecna]

i guess flum is bored

[Vecna]

Ahem.

Why is it impossible that the scum chose to have this role among their team?

First of all, look at us having stupid arguments about it.

and

Second of all, it was 0 cost, so they would have credit to spend on something really funky.

Well, one has to wonder why the scum team would choose to have a role that people are going to be asking "why on earth are they still alive" if they make it even into the midgame

Why on earth would scum waste a NK on a known vanilla player when there are PRs to hunt?

prs dont win games. poe pools with tons of townread people do. the prs in this setup arent very strong regardless from what i remember of the list

[Maniac]

I think he's been pretty mellow, yes. Do you not?

I very distinctly remember thinking that scum!Jamie in M1010 (which you were also in) was less aggressive than in his town games. He only got caught because Rivera had a guilty scan on him - and Rivera basically had to out himself as the cop to get Jamie daykilled.

That's the only time I've seen scum!Jamie, and ghug has already said he thinks my meta opinion of Jamie is wrong. If you also think this then I'll try to ignore meta for my read of him.

I am not sure what to make of Maniac's move to Flum. He said he didn't have time to catch up and didn't want to vote Jamie for unexplained reasons. I'd like to know what those were, since he originally said he didn't think Jamie was on his team (granted, that was really early in the game). And on the surface I don't like the statement that he'd prefer ghug over Flum because it could be scum trying to distance from a town flip, but he did say earlier that ghug was becoming his top scum read so I don't think that part is bothering me too much.

I don't really do the meta thing with any degree of seriousness, so how you treat meta is up to you. People change game by game, day by day, etc.

I was thinking similarly about Maniac. He joke-voted for Jamie, then joke-voted rdrivera 24 hours into the game, and then joke-voted me shortly thereafter. What I mean to say is that while some of us waited on our role PMs to really start taking things seriously, he waited for his role PM and then kept not taking things seriously. It was weird.

Maniac, maybe you'll have a better answer than kgray. Why a) did you move to Flum instead of teacon of Jamie, and why did you wait until the deciding vote had been cast to do so; and b) why didn't you spend any of the last 14 hours after ghug became your top scumread doing jack to get a wagon going against him?

I still haven’t isolated Ghug, I’ve said my scam read on him was more a feeling. Going all out to get anyone daykilled on a feeling would be wrong. And I’m lazy, time poor.

When it came to the choice late D1 it was between Jamie (whom I town read and had said so clearly earlier I wouldn’t be voting for him), teacon7 who I town read and flum who I didn’t have an opinion on.

My teacon townread at the time was that he’d tried to get recruited and said he didn’t want to be recruited. That didn’t sit easy coming from original scum. Would original scum want to associate their name with scum? I think not. This isn’t an obv town play, but was enough to give teacon a town read on D1

[rdrivera2005]

Teacon's last messages remembered me of that game he and Xorxes fight all over the game and both were town. I don't want to go this way.

I will change to
##vote Seth - He is coasting.

[Maniac]

@flum - you can put all your votes into one post mate. Also can you say hi to my Aunty Barbara and ask her where the will is please and thank-you.

If the will is in loft say ##vote Donny, If will is anywhere else say ##vote Worcej

[damo666]

Enjoying banana

[Maniac]

Teacon's last messages remembered me of that game he and Xorxes fight all over the game and both were town. I don't want to go this way.

I will change to
##vote Seth - He is coasting.

I know you’ve had bad work day, but do you accept that you role has doomed you to an early death? That being the case you can put all your game effort into a few days and your reads and thoughts will be useful to us later.

Please work extra hard for a few days so I don’t have to.

[Maniac]

Enjoying banana

Bananas are the devils fruit. This could be a scum slip