M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

Yeah I'm not asking you to not entertain it. I'm a little skeptical of people implying I could be scum just because I was good at it in other games, but some amount of paranoia is probably town indicative.

Who's your top townread and your top scumread?

Frankly, I don't have a top for either. I felt like HR, Seth, and Donny were all pretty townie. I don't like how HR has been tunnelling, but I think I'm just being paranoid, I don't know. I'm not gonna vote for those three today at least.

I think you're a straight null for me at this point. But a wagon on you would be kinda fun, I'd like to see that actually. Have you ever even been voted ever?

I thought bozo was townie but less so now because he won't stfu about Seth and its dumb. Scum is probably between bozo, nook, ghug, flum, Maniac, emc and maaaaybe you. But frankly I haven't done much thinking on how it'd all work together. And I'm going back and forth on flum and maniac. I don't think they're both scum together at least.

Anyway those are my current thoughts.

Why do you think Donny has been towny?

I think the only person to have voted me in this game is Moscow. My first game I was a tied wagon in mylo (with damo, who was also town) and then I was the kylo miskill. After that I think it's just been a random vote here and there, never a real wagon.

Do you not think bozo getting caught up on something like seth's D1 is town!bozo? I can't figure out if it's normal for him to be this stubborn about it because he's usually adamant about his scumreads, or if he's being sort of lazy/cautious by not picking a new target.

Bozo's tunneled me for days on end as town before, but I think he does that as either alignment.

[kgray]

Does anyone think there's a chance kgray saw she rolled scum with summit again and decided he was a lost cause and just bussed hard? Or is this me being paranoid? Literally no one even suggested she might have been scum last time and now I'm getting worried because if there's an incredible deep threat it's her

I considered this because kgray bussed damo in M1011 in a way that would be similar, and I have seen very few cases of scum willing to bus that way D1.

That was not similar. In M1011 I bussed damo for reasons I didn't think anyone would follow me for. Here I continually pointed out the valid reasons I scumread summit and actively tried to get him killed.

[Donny Dude]

I love having 5 wagons with 2 ppl each. Fucking solid work team...

Yeah.
In the interests of not having this be a tie.
##vote maniac

[seth24c]

Which part?

How did they have the jailer accounted for? Are you saying they knew the jailer was jailing chaqa?

Go look at the bot for Night 1.

It came out pretty quickly D2 because it was obvious to everyone who'd actually read the setup, so it's pretty much impossible scum didn't know.

Yeah you’re saying chaqa was jailed. I get that. What I don’t get is why the chose to kill rdr in particular? Why kill him unless they saw something that they knew meant he was a pr?

[ghug]

How did they have the jailer accounted for? Are you saying they knew the jailer was jailing chaqa?

Go look at the bot for Night 1.

It came out pretty quickly D2 because it was obvious to everyone who'd actually read the setup, so it's pretty much impossible scum didn't know.

Yeah you’re saying chaqa was jailed. I get that. What I don’t get is why the chose to kill rdr in particular? Why kill him unless they saw something that they knew meant he was a pr?

Exactly

[bozotheclown]

I feel like Bozo having spent almost every day on seth, throwing shade on other growing wagons to jump on them when they grow and get a miskill, and then going back to voting seth inconsequentially every round has been his contributions to the game.
Usually town Bozo is a bit more inspired then this.

Can any people who townread Bozo give me a reason?

I have been trying to flip seth, but when it has been obvious seth was no longer viable for the DK, I have voted for one of the leading wagons at EOD. I think you are mischaracterizing my voting to say I "jump on them when they grow".

If you don't want me to vote for seth any more, lets DK him today.

[bozotheclown]

Yeah I'm not asking you to not entertain it. I'm a little skeptical of people implying I could be scum just because I was good at it in other games, but some amount of paranoia is probably town indicative.

Who's your top townread and your top scumread?

Frankly, I don't have a top for either. I felt like HR, Seth, and Donny were all pretty townie. I don't like how HR has been tunnelling, but I think I'm just being paranoid, I don't know. I'm not gonna vote for those three today at least.

I think you're a straight null for me at this point. But a wagon on you would be kinda fun, I'd like to see that actually. Have you ever even been voted ever?

I thought bozo was townie but less so now because he won't stfu about Seth and its dumb. Scum is probably between bozo, nook, ghug, flum, Maniac, emc and maaaaybe you. But frankly I haven't done much thinking on how it'd all work together. And I'm going back and forth on flum and maniac. I don't think they're both scum together at least.

Anyway those are my current thoughts.

Why do you think Donny has been towny?

I think the only person to have voted me in this game is Moscow. My first game I was a tied wagon in mylo (with damo, who was also town) and then I was the kylo miskill. After that I think it's just been a random vote here and there, never a real wagon.

Do you not think bozo getting caught up on something like seth's D1 is town!bozo? I can't figure out if it's normal for him to be this stubborn about it because he's usually adamant about his scumreads, or if he's being sort of lazy/cautious by not picking a new target.

I have other suspects, but seth is still my strongest scum read, so I am going to keep voting for him.

[ghug]

I have a meeting that should end before Eod.

People should consolidate on not Seth and maybe not Flum in the mean time.

[bozotheclown]

Does anyone think there's a chance kgray saw she rolled scum with summit again and decided he was a lost cause and just bussed hard? Or is this me being paranoid? Literally no one even suggested she might have been scum last time and now I'm getting worried because if there's an incredible deep threat it's her

I considered this because kgray bussed damo in M1011 in a way that would be similar, and I have seen very few cases of scum willing to bus that way D1.

That was not similar. In M1011 I bussed damo for reasons I didn't think anyone would follow me for. Here I continually pointed out the valid reasons I scumread summit and actively tried to get him killed.

OK, I just meant based on voting, although damo did almost get DKed, and he had to tie the vote himself in the final minute to prevent it. My point was that you voted for him to put him the lead half way through D1 and never moved your vote, even when you could have saved him at EOD (since I assume you did not know he would show up). I do not think you bussing summit, but I would not rule it out.

[kgray]

@bozo what do you think about Maniac? You've said you don't think he's non-traitor scum because of summit's claim, but I don't think you have responded to my case on him at all.

[bozotheclown]

@bozo what do you think about Maniac? You've said you don't think he's non-traitor scum because of summit's claim, but I don't think you have responded to my case on him at all.

Maniac is my best guess for the traitor, I only question why he would be so obvious D1. He has managed to avoid the DK since, so maybe he thought he could get away with it and has.

[kgray]

@bozo what do you think about Maniac? You've said you don't think he's non-traitor scum because of summit's claim, but I don't think you have responded to my case on him at all.

Maniac is my best guess for the traitor, I only question why he would be so obvious D1. He has managed to avoid the DK since, so maybe he thought he could get away with it and has.

That's based on D1 signaling? Do you agree with the arguments I made about his D4 voting and his general thought progression in the game?

[bozotheclown]

Does it not concern anyone that seth kept his vote off of the top wagons D4 when he was still in contention with Vecna and flash, then voted for flash in the last minute when Vecna was about to be the DK, then D5, he vote for Moscow at EOD when it looked like flash was about to flip?

[e.m.c^42]

Is it close enough to EOD for me to vote? Gotta follow that schedule, after all

[kgray]

Is it close enough to EOD for me to vote? Gotta follow that schedule, after all

Have you read anything?

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 6.5

Maniac (3) - kgray, seth24c, Donny Dude
e.m.c^42 (2) - ghug, Hellenic Riot
seth24c (2) - bozotheclown, Nanook
Fluminator (2) - Maniac, Durga
bozotheclown (1) - Fluminator

Not voted: EMC

MANIAC is scheduled to be kerplowied.

30 minutes remain in Day Six.

[Maniac]

I can't see Kgray, Seth or Donny being scum at the moment. Killing me now doesn't make sense for scum. So if I am DK you have to forgive them for their violence against me.

I'm not loving the fact we're all so spread out with 30 mins to go.

For the record between now and EOD I'm only voting Flum. I won't switch to EMC to save myself and I won't be making any claims.

[e.m.c^42]

##vote Maniac, because even though I haven't really read thread at all I saw a few of his posts quoted, and the formatting made me wince since iirc he's more coherent as town lol

[Hellenic Riot]

Why haven't you read the thread at all, emc?

[kgray]

Does it not concern anyone that seth kept his vote off of the top wagons D4 when he was still in contention with Vecna and flash, then voted for flash in the last minute when Vecna was about to be the DK, then D5, he vote for Moscow at EOD when it looked like flash was about to flip?

Maybe, but from memory it did seem like he was leaning town on Vecna D4 so voting the counter wagon isn't that suspicious to me. His vote for Moscow also didn't come completely out of the blue, and he said with 45 minutes to go that he'd move there if Maniac wasn't happening.