M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[ghug]

Also, not only did Moscow never respond to my reply to this, but apparently I certainly did not do a good job of voting him to get him to participate more...

Moscow is feeling more and more like he's coasting on an early bus.

I agree with this, my townread on him has disappeared entirely. Not sure we should kill him if he's going to get replaced/modkilled though?

I find that that's best to leave unsaid until a few minutes before EoD, lest someone take advantage of it.

[Hellenic Riot]

Also, not only did Moscow never respond to my reply to this, but apparently I certainly did not do a good job of voting him to get him to participate more...

Moscow is feeling more and more like he's coasting on an early bus.

I agree with this, my townread on him has disappeared entirely. Not sure we should kill him if he's going to get replaced/modkilled though?

He only needs to make a one line post to vote to avoid being replaced, so I'd hardly be counting on that... And if he's scum, a replacement doesn't exactly solve the quandary there

[bozotheclown]

What do you think about Seth's late Flash vote yesterday then?

I'm not sure how that relates?

I liked the late Seth vote. He seemed unconcerned with his own appearance.

Because to me it stinks of someone knowing Vecna was about to flip town

Do you want to make seth a wagon then?

[kgray]

Moscow is feeling more and more like he's coasting on an early bus.

I agree with this, my townread on him has disappeared entirely. Not sure we should kill him if he's going to get replaced/modkilled though?

I find that that's best to leave unsaid until a few minutes before EoD, lest someone take advantage of it.

Oh. Sorry.

[Hellenic Riot]

I'm not sure how that relates?

I liked the late Seth vote. He seemed unconcerned with his own appearance.

Because to me it stinks of someone knowing Vecna was about to flip town

Do you want to make seth a wagon then?

Not if people are actually going to join me on Moscow

[ghug]

I'm not into a Seth wagon. I could vote Moscow, but I'd probably stay on one of Flum and flash if Flum involved himself.

Maniac's behavior is scummy, but I think others are right to say that summit was less likely to claim up against a teammate, which limits him to traitor or 3P.

[Nanook]

But to give you a semi-serious reply Seth...when I “don’t play” I get flamed for “not contributing”...when I do have the time to sit down and play I get told some version of “you’re dumb” or “you’re bad”...so my motivation to explain my reads and engage people is very low rn. It’s nothing particularly personal this just isn’t the kind of game/environment that I enjoy, so my drive to push this game in a direction I think it should go really isn’t there. I’ll continue giving my reads, I’ll engage when I have time/people are asking good faith questions (i.e., not “why are you useless” type ones), but 25-30 posts a day in two bursts and an attempt to make whatever EODs I can is probably just what you’re getting from me at this point

I refer to my previous comments about requesting a sub based on the underlined portion.

If you're honestly not enjoying yourself and don't have the motivation to play, then that is what you should do.

Telling someone they should sub out is kinda crappy tbh

Plz don’t

[bozotheclown]

Because to me it stinks of someone knowing Vecna was about to flip town

Do you want to make seth a wagon then?

Not if people are actually going to join me on Moscow

I don't think MF's absence is scum indicative.

[Hellenic Riot]

Do you want to make seth a wagon then?

Not if people are actually going to join me on Moscow

I don't think MF's absence is scum indicative.

Neither do I - I think his actual play is.

[Hellenic Riot]

Though I don't find disappearing the moment you actually start getting called out about coasting and about inconsistencies is particularly townie, either.

[kgray]

I'm not into a Seth wagon. I could vote Moscow, but I'd probably stay on one of Flum and flash if Flum involved himself.

Maniac's behavior is scummy, but I think others are right to say that summit was less likely to claim up against a teammate, which limits him to traitor or 3P.

Hey, we disagree on something!

I'm not voting for Flum today. I'd be alright with Moscow too, and I don't mind seeing flash flip even though I'm not totally convinced he's scum and not just stubborn town.

I'll join bozo on ##vote seth for now.

[ghug]

I'm not into a Seth wagon. I could vote Moscow, but I'd probably stay on one of Flum and flash if Flum involved himself.

Maniac's behavior is scummy, but I think others are right to say that summit was less likely to claim up against a teammate, which limits him to traitor or 3P.

Hey, we disagree on something!

I'm not voting for Flum today. I'd be alright with Moscow too, and I don't mind seeing flash flip even though I'm not totally convinced he's scum and not just stubborn town.

I'll join bozo on ##vote seth for now.

You're dead to me

[bozotheclown]

Not if people are actually going to join me on Moscow

I don't think MF's absence is scum indicative.

Neither do I - I think his actual play is.

Beside MF's D1 vote for summit, he seems to be the only one to agree with me that seth was protecting summit D1, so I think he is likely town.

[ghug]

Ten guests is pretty high. Probably some scum lurking.

Hi summit?

[Hellenic Riot]

I don't think MF's absence is scum indicative.

Neither do I - I think his actual play is.

Beside MF's D1 vote for summit, he seems to be the only one to agree with me that seth was protecting summit D1, so I think he is likely town.

What about that period where he seemed to forget he thought Seth was scum, before a post of yours reminded him?

[ghug]

I don't think MF's absence is scum indicative.

Neither do I - I think his actual play is.

Beside MF's D1 vote for summit, he seems to be the only one to agree with me that seth was protecting summit D1, so I think he is likely town.

I did agree with you, and then seth acted pretty townie yester(game)day.

[seth24c]

Because to me it stinks of someone knowing Vecna was about to flip town

That's plausible, but I think it'd come with more justification and complaining if he were voting to get cred.

I think making votes close late is good play.

There's a risk that more explanation would neither be possible in that amount of time, or that it might convince people to flip onto flash which he'd presumably not want if he were scum.

The fact he's spent today justifying it as saying that Vecna suddenly became clear town because of the way he was acting just isn't stacking up for me - I just don't see how Vecna changed the way he acted in the last 10-15 minutes at all.

Maniac’s creepy post about joining the vecna wagon so I could get towncred rubbed me the wrong way and made me think that that wagon was a mistake. Vecna also pointed out that if he was scum he would have known to claim jailed and that also made sense. Those two things along with how vecna was acting made me think he was town as I had felt he was town but has been worried to label him that because I just wasn’t sure. I became a lot more sure that vecna was town than flash so that’s why I put my vote on flash.

[bozotheclown]

Neither do I - I think his actual play is.

Beside MF's D1 vote for summit, he seems to be the only one to agree with me that seth was protecting summit D1, so I think he is likely town.

What about that period where he seemed to forget he thought Seth was scum, before a post of yours reminded him?

Did he ever town read seth during that time?

[Hellenic Riot]

Beside MF's D1 vote for summit, he seems to be the only one to agree with me that seth was protecting summit D1, so I think he is likely town.

What about that period where he seemed to forget he thought Seth was scum, before a post of yours reminded him?

Did he ever town read seth during that time?

No, but he went from being 'dead certain' seth was scum to ignoring him entirely.

[seth24c]

I'm not into a Seth wagon. I could vote Moscow, but I'd probably stay on one of Flum and flash if Flum involved himself.

Maniac's behavior is scummy, but I think others are right to say that summit was less likely to claim up against a teammate, which limits him to traitor or 3P.

Hey, we disagree on something!

I'm not voting for Flum today. I'd be alright with Moscow too, and I don't mind seeing flash flip even though I'm not totally convinced he's scum and not just stubborn town.

I'll join bozo on ##vote seth for now.

This seems like an opportunistic play. I don’t believe that you find bozo’s case against me compelling enough to just sheep it.