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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4661 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:10 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:08 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
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I'm not sure how that relates?

I liked the late Seth vote. He seemed unconcerned with his own appearance.
Because to me it stinks of someone knowing Vecna was about to flip town
That's plausible, but I think it'd come with more justification and complaining if he were voting to get cred.

I think making votes close late is good play.
There's a risk that more explanation would neither be possible in that amount of time, or that it might convince people to flip onto flash which he'd presumably not want if he were scum.

The fact he's spent today justifying it as saying that Vecna suddenly became clear town because of the way he was acting just isn't stacking up for me - I just don't see how Vecna changed the way he acted in the last 10-15 minutes at all.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4662 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:11 pm

Where's your vote going if you can't have Moscow, Riot?

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4663 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:12 pm

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@HR I explain my Maniac read in my post against damo. I have explained my flash read pretty clearly, although I admit I now have doubts because of how many of my townreads are pushing him.

My scumread on seth was always gut-feeling based on eod1, and after actually looking at eod more closely, damo was the one who jumped out to me so he's who I focused on. Once damo flipped town, bozo made a post about seth's posts that I agreed with, which is why I switched there before settling on Vecna.

Tom's overall play with the gun was just a lot of fun and chaos and I enjoyed it, hence why I called it great.

You make a lot of statements, but I'm curious as to what specifically you think is scum-motivated in my play. Because from my pov, this vote is either based on pretty much air, or it's to get me to actually participate a bit more, in which case good job.
Also, not only did Moscow never respond to my reply to this, but apparently I certainly did not do a good job of voting him to get him to participate more...

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4664 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:13 pm

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Where's your vote going if you can't have Moscow, Riot?
I townread Flum, so certainly not there

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4665 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:16 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
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ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:11 pm
Where's your vote going if you can't have Moscow, Riot?
I townread Flum, so certainly not there
That's a great half-answer.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4666 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:16 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:12 pm
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Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:46 am
@HR I explain my Maniac read in my post against damo. I have explained my flash read pretty clearly, although I admit I now have doubts because of how many of my townreads are pushing him.

My scumread on seth was always gut-feeling based on eod1, and after actually looking at eod more closely, damo was the one who jumped out to me so he's who I focused on. Once damo flipped town, bozo made a post about seth's posts that I agreed with, which is why I switched there before settling on Vecna.

Tom's overall play with the gun was just a lot of fun and chaos and I enjoyed it, hence why I called it great.

You make a lot of statements, but I'm curious as to what specifically you think is scum-motivated in my play. Because from my pov, this vote is either based on pretty much air, or it's to get me to actually participate a bit more, in which case good job.
Also, not only did Moscow never respond to my reply to this, but apparently I certainly did not do a good job of voting him to get him to participate more...
Moscow is feeling more and more like he's coasting on an early bus.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4667 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:19 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:16 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:13 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:11 pm
Where's your vote going if you can't have Moscow, Riot?
I townread Flum, so certainly not there
That's a great half-answer.
The biggest thing stopping me from voting Seth right now is that I also scumread the only other person already doing it, and I really struggle to see Bozo & Seth as a team. So I'm probably wrong on one of them unless one is a 3P (or unrecruited traitor, I guess).

If it came down to a 3 way choice between Flum, Flash, and Maniac, I'd probably be most inclined to go Maniac - I'm just not especially enamoured with any of those wagons.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4668 Post by Fluminator » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:20 pm

When I was scum with Moscow the first time, he certainly did like staying out of the limelight and hopping on when there were wagons already going.

I don't remember what he was like as town.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4669 Post by Fluminator » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:20 pm

(Not last game, a previous game me and Moscow were scum together.)

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4670 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:23 pm

Flum, if I leave you alone today, do you promise to self-vote tomorrow?

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4671 Post by Fluminator » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:24 pm

Stay a bit longer. I want to see what a couple other players do.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4672 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:25 pm

Donny Dude wrote:
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bozotheclown wrote:
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kgray wrote:
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Why aren't you voting flash then?
He is not my first choice for the DK.
What choice is he then?
Maybe third or fourth.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4673 Post by Fluminator » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:26 pm

The worcej scumread coming out of literally no where is interesting to me and I want to see what else happens.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4674 Post by Fluminator » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:28 pm

I would be willing to do a flash wagon on Moscow before eod tbh.
(See what I did there?)

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4675 Post by ghug » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:30 pm

Fluminator wrote:
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Stay a bit longer. I want to see what a couple other players do.
Don't worry bb I won't leave u

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4676 Post by flash2015 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:30 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:28 pm
I would be willing to do a flash wagon on Moscow before eod tbh.
(See what I did there?)
LOL

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4677 Post by kgray » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:32 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:47 pm
Vecna 2.0

I'm excited to see who else jumps on. (And to see if ghug's chill with it like he was Vecna)
Well worcej's vote certainly looks opportunistic, and similar to his Vecna vote D4. I also just noticed he'd been scumreading bozo and then bozo made a 1-paragraph case against Vecna, and suddenly worcej goes out of his way to call bozo town and agree that Vecna was scummy, while saying "this amount of analysis is too good to ignore." It was really not a lot of analysis by bozo's standards.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4678 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:33 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:42 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:28 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:23 pm


Why aren't you voting flash then?
He is not my first choice for the DK.
This is a very different response compared to the one you had when flash self-voted in M59.
flash was my first choice for the DK D1 of M59, even before he self voted. His D1 lurking that game was similar to M47, but I have never seem him this disinterested for a whole game as scum. He could have limited time for the game and is trying a new scum strategy out of necessity.

I do wonder if his self vote was a scum ploy since he established his willingness to self vote as town in M59.

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4679 Post by kgray » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:36 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:16 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:12 pm
MoscowFleet wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:46 am
@HR I explain my Maniac read in my post against damo. I have explained my flash read pretty clearly, although I admit I now have doubts because of how many of my townreads are pushing him.

My scumread on seth was always gut-feeling based on eod1, and after actually looking at eod more closely, damo was the one who jumped out to me so he's who I focused on. Once damo flipped town, bozo made a post about seth's posts that I agreed with, which is why I switched there before settling on Vecna.

Tom's overall play with the gun was just a lot of fun and chaos and I enjoyed it, hence why I called it great.

You make a lot of statements, but I'm curious as to what specifically you think is scum-motivated in my play. Because from my pov, this vote is either based on pretty much air, or it's to get me to actually participate a bit more, in which case good job.
Also, not only did Moscow never respond to my reply to this, but apparently I certainly did not do a good job of voting him to get him to participate more...
Moscow is feeling more and more like he's coasting on an early bus.
I agree with this, my townread on him has disappeared entirely. Not sure we should kill him if he's going to get replaced/modkilled though?

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Re: M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

#4680 Post by kgray » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:36 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:19 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:16 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:13 pm

I townread Flum, so certainly not there
That's a great half-answer.
The biggest thing stopping me from voting Seth right now is that I also scumread the only other person already doing it, and I really struggle to see Bozo & Seth as a team. So I'm probably wrong on one of them unless one is a 3P (or unrecruited traitor, I guess).

If it came down to a 3 way choice between Flum, Flash, and Maniac, I'd probably be most inclined to go Maniac - I'm just not especially enamoured with any of those wagons.
I don't find bozo particularly suspicious, and I would vote for seth.

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