M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[Durga]

I suppose that's what I get for not reading the roles properly

Town slip?

[Fluminator]

HR you still are making no sense. Are you drunk?

[Hellenic Riot]

HR you still are making no sense. Are you drunk?

No, I just didn't bother reading the Traitor PM past the recruitment part because I incorrectly presumed it was the same as a Traitor on every other mafia site

[kgray]

Right, I actually remember him pushing Maniac, so unless all three of them are scum, what's the incentive for scum!bozo to keep voting scum!summit instead of moving his move to maniac when that was (theoretically) a viable miskill?

Yeah that's a good point too. Probably even more so because he moved off of Maniac and onto summit, so unless bozo was going for the hard bus for towncred (or if Manica is scum) then he's probably town.

[Hellenic Riot]

Either way, there's certainly no guarantee that it's been recruited though.

[Fluminator]

HR you still are making no sense. Are you drunk?

No, I just didn't bother reading the Traitor PM past the recruitment part because I incorrectly presumed it was the same as a Traitor on every other mafia site

No not that. How is a daykill any different from this eod gunshot in terms of mafia reacting.

[kgray]

What would town bozo do differently?

Actually try to figure out if summit were scum? Summit was a viable wagon for basically the whole phase - why didn't bozo mention him at all other than when he voted for him?

Bozo's never really struck me as much of an interactor, which is part of the reason I can never read him.

I think when he thinks he finds scum he tries to nail them to the wall. He really gets into people and questions them and doesn't let up. Him not doing that is what pinged me about his summit vote D1, although part of that is because I missed the questions he did ask.

[Durga]

HR you still are making no sense. Are you drunk?

No, I just didn't bother reading the Traitor PM past the recruitment part because I incorrectly presumed it was the same as a Traitor on every other mafia site

Do you also not read the thread. Weren't you in the last game?

[seth24c]

Actually try to figure out if summit were scum? Summit was a viable wagon for basically the whole phase - why didn't bozo mention him at all other than when he voted for him?

Bozo's never really struck me as much of an interactor, which is part of the reason I can never read him.

I think when he thinks he finds scum he tries to nail them to the wall. He really gets into people and questions them and doesn't let up. Him not doing that is what pinged me about his summit vote D1, although part of that is because I missed the questions he did ask.

The way he asked the questions was weird to me though. It felt like bozo was telling summit what summit had to do to alleviate some of the pressure on him.

[Hellenic Riot]

HR you still are making no sense. Are you drunk?

No, I just didn't bother reading the Traitor PM past the recruitment part because I incorrectly presumed it was the same as a Traitor on every other mafia site

No not that. How is a daykill any different from this eod gunshot in terms of mafia reacting.

Because when a gun goes off in the day, the day continues and the scum can't talk in their chat.

When a daykill at EoD goes through, the scum chat opens and they can discuss it there.

I'd say that's quite logical

[Durga]

My question is why shooting flash is any different re:reactions than shooting someone else?

[Hellenic Riot]

Bozo's never really struck me as much of an interactor, which is part of the reason I can never read him.

I think when he thinks he finds scum he tries to nail them to the wall. He really gets into people and questions them and doesn't let up. Him not doing that is what pinged me about his summit vote D1, although part of that is because I missed the questions he did ask.

The way he asked the questions was weird to me though. It felt like bozo was telling summit what summit had to do to alleviate some of the pressure on him.

Agreed

[Hellenic Riot]

My question is why shooting flash is any different re:reactions than shooting someone else?

Which is a question I've already answered

[Hellenic Riot]

In fact, I explicitly made clear why flash was different in the post that started this discussion, so I have no idea how you managed to miss that

[Durga]

In fact, I explicitly made clear why flash was different in the post that started this discussion, so I have no idea how you managed to miss that

What? That it wouldn't fluster anyone?

[Hellenic Riot]

This is a quote of every D1 Bozo post that mentions or replies to Summit:

Page 11:

##Vote Summit
His thing is set to invisible. Only scum do that.
Source: I did that as scum

I believe you were visible in the last game.

Is your online status hidden, and if so, do you always keep it hidden?

Why aren't you?

I don't need Bozo spreadsheeting my time reading the thread, thank you.

I never pay attention to online status, because many players always keep it hidden.

(In the midst of many other posts)

Page 41:

Yeh I was town so I was more focused whereas now I’m scum so I just wanna have a good time

I really didn't expect to see you again, but you're town as fuck.

Why do you think that?

Page 42:

Why do you think that?

His iso is just a clean "why did I sign up to a second game of webdip mafia?" Maybe he would pull this shit as scum as well, but it's very reminiscent of M57.

What about that reminds you of M57? I was out of that game N1, but what I remember was that Nanook was a professional mafia player.

(No Followup)

Page 56:

I feel like summit has had an awful long time since becoming a main wagon to do something remotely townie, and has singularly failed at it. He's dodged every single statement that multiple people have made about how he's playing this game so differently to last time, and so I really don't see a reason to change off of him.

summit voted for 6 different players D1 in M59, this game he has not said anything to indicate he suspects anyone.

##VOTE summit

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summit voted for 6 different players D1 in M59, this game he has not said anything to indicate he suspects anyone.

##VOTE summit

That's true, but do you believe M59 is typical?

I reviewed your town games, and why you have not voted for 6 different players in any other game, M59 is closer to your typical D1 than this game. In most of the other games you changed your vote several times D1.

[Hellenic Riot]

In fact, I explicitly made clear why flash was different in the post that started this discussion, so I have no idea how you managed to miss that

What? That it wouldn't fluster anyone?

Exactly. Nobody interacts with someone who isn't here. Nobody is going to struggle to justify their read on Flash depending on his flip. We gain nothing.

[Hellenic Riot]

But going back to Bozo: I fail to see how he really gets any credit from that, and I'm dubious about why he would seem townie for it. Furthermore, he stopped posting with over an hour left before EoD: At which time Summit had 7 votes compared to Maniac on 3, so claiming he had plenty opportunity to flip to Maniac doesn't really stack up to reality either - He signalled he was open to it, and then wasn't around to follow through when Maniac was actually a plausible counterwagon.

[Durga]

In fact, I explicitly made clear why flash was different in the post that started this discussion, so I have no idea how you managed to miss that

What? That it wouldn't fluster anyone?

Exactly. Nobody interacts with someone who isn't here. Nobody is going to struggle to justify their read on Flash depending on his flip. We gain nothing.

I didn't miss that. I just didn't get why it would be the case for flash vs anyone else. I don't think it matters one way or another. Unless this scum team totally sucks I highly doubt a lack of day chat is gonna make a difference as to how they'd react to any shot

[Donny Dude]

Donny, are you new on mafiascum? What's your username there if not?

Define new?
Other main character in big Lebowski not donny or dude.
Why do you want to know this?

I might be familiar with you which would help me read you

k