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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#561 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:49 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:41 am
Why is everyone listing four town reads. This is spam unless you have something substantive to say about them.
No, it´s not. It forces scum to state opinions (or to avoid it, which is also indicative).

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#562 Post by TrPrado » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:49 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:41 am
I don't really like food's gigantic reads posts. So unnatural. So planned out.
My eyes glazed over real hard when I saw it lol

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#563 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:51 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:40 am


I don't really think Moscow joke voting about hockey is him pretending to be useful, and you construing it that way is weird as hell.

I at least understand why we differ on hthefourth as my read of him is largely dependent on his defense of me when it was being tossed around that I was signaling traitor role to scum.
It seemed like he defended you before he realized that Bunny was suggesting you were signaling traitor.
Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
If he knows you are town it could be a way to get town credit. Or he could have believed you were Taz. Or you could be both scum. So, this isn´t so clear to me that newb scum won´t defend you, at least on my POV.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#564 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:52 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:40 am


I don't really think Moscow joke voting about hockey is him pretending to be useful, and you construing it that way is weird as hell.

I at least understand why we differ on hthefourth as my read of him is largely dependent on his defense of me when it was being tossed around that I was signaling traitor role to scum.
It seemed like he defended you before he realized that Bunny was suggesting you were signaling traitor.
Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
Yeah. He objected to my “anyone see what I see?” way of posting it.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#565 Post by kgray » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:52 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:40 am


I don't really think Moscow joke voting about hockey is him pretending to be useful, and you construing it that way is weird as hell.

I at least understand why we differ on hthefourth as my read of him is largely dependent on his defense of me when it was being tossed around that I was signaling traitor role to scum.
It seemed like he defended you before he realized that Bunny was suggesting you were signaling traitor.
Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
You weren't getting traction though. Bunny made a comment saying your first two posts were odd and asking if they triggered anything to anyone else, but nobody had agreed with him at that time (except Flum saying your banter was cringy, apparently thinking Bunny was talking about you and Moscow). There was no "vocal opinion" going on in the thread. hthefourth's defense of you was only 15 minutes after Bunny started the conversation and a bunch of the posts between the two had nothing to do with it.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#566 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:53 am

"If he knows you are town it could be a way to get town credit"

I find this incredibly unlikely for newb scum to be forward thinking that much D1.

But yes, I understand I have more information about my alignment, and thus more information to base my read upon. But that is why I townread hthefourth

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#567 Post by Durga » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am

I feel like everytime Tom is town he just gets bullied d1

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#568 Post by kgray » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:51 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am


It seemed like he defended you before he realized that Bunny was suggesting you were signaling traitor.
Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
If he knows you are town it could be a way to get town credit. Or he could have believed you were Taz. Or you could be both scum. So, this isn´t so clear to me that newb scum won´t defend you, at least on my POV.
How likely do you think it is that hthefourth and Tom are scumbuddies? I could see it based on hthefourth's defense of Tom but I don't know why Tom would defend his teammate this much.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#569 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am

Hey Goldie!

How was Wall Street?

Got time for some gaming?

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#570 Post by Durga » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am

And since he's getting bullied d1 he must be town

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#571 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:56 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am
And since he's getting bullied d1 he must be town
Do you think I’m bullying him?

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#572 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:56 am

I guess traction isn't the right word, but it was being discussed in the thread early on that posts I made were being thought of as potentially suspicious. I don't see a scum coming in and making waves there - I find it much more likely new scum would step aside let someone they know as town continue to be questoined.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#573 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:57 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am
I feel like everytime Tom is town he just gets bullied d1
Maybe its because I'm awkard according to Vecna lol

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#574 Post by kgray » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:57 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:52 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am


It seemed like he defended you before he realized that Bunny was suggesting you were signaling traitor.
Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
Yeah. He objected to my “anyone see what I see?” way of posting it.
Hmm. This is a good point. I guess it's really possible (probable?) that he had more of an issue with the fact that he thought you were throwing around accusations without explaining, and it wasn't really about Tom at all.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#575 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:21 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:55 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:51 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:48 am


Ok. Maybe true, but that doesn't change my read. I don't see a situation where newbie scum would contradict the vocal opinion going on in thread. I start getting traction and then newb scum defends me seems unlikely.
If he knows you are town it could be a way to get town credit. Or he could have believed you were Taz. Or you could be both scum. So, this isn´t so clear to me that newb scum won´t defend you, at least on my POV.
How likely do you think it is that hthefourth and Tom are scumbuddies? I could see it based on hthefourth's defense of Tom but I don't know why Tom would defend his teammate this much.
Honestly, I think it´s unlikely. I don´t think Tom is scum and he will probably avoid to openly defend a scummate that already defended him. But this don´t make thefourth town to me.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#576 Post by summit_fever » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:27 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:41 am
summit_fever wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:20 am
top 4 townreads given with day 1 confidence:

stronger:
bozo
bunny

weaker:
flum
vecna
Why is Bunny a strong townread?
It's a day 1 read and it's mostly based on intuition. At the very least Bunny has generated some good conversation.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#577 Post by summit_fever » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:32 am

TrPrado wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:40 am
summit_fever wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:21 am
TrPrado wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:59 am


Horrible?
That is what I typed. Do you disagree?
Can't disagree with a statement given without reason. What do you mean by horrible?
I mean that it would be horrible. If Bozo is town he's usually a great help in solving the game. M1015 was basically solved by him on day 3. Unless there is a good reason to murder him it would be idiotic to do so on day 1.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#578 Post by summit_fever » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:35 am

Durga wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:41 am
Why is everyone listing four town reads. This is spam unless you have something substantive to say about them.
Hard disagree with calling the exercise spam. Why demand substantive observations so early?

I like townreading durga but it just ain't happening.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#579 Post by summit_fever » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:45 am

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:08 am
The bozo wagon is very silly. bozo is lord and saviour of weird entrances.

I would sheep bozo because he’s great but Tom’s Taz soft is on balance more likely town, so bozo is likely wrong.

damo gave me a weird vibe and I don’t like unvotes. I fear classing damo too early but he may be scum here.

Summit I think is town for already pointing out bozo’s true meta.

worcej is spamming and I am resisting spamkilling.

Durga put in effort to make multiquotes from multiple authors in the same post but without advancing a major narrative which looks like scum tryharding.

Typical BunnyGo.

goldfinger gets a long leer.

Flum and Vecna seem like Flum and Vecna.

Yavu, HR, Macca, TrPrado and seth I’ve got nothing.

I like hthe for sincerity.

kgray votes me for lurking which is unrepresentative of me. Is that scummy?

Flash feels slightly too active to be townflash.

MoscowFleet should be “Fleet Moscow” or “F Mos” and the technical impossibility is too smarmy for my taste but otherwise seems town.

##VOTE damo666
Not sure what to think about this post; I agree with some of it, but it seems hastily put together.

Do you have a reason for disliking unvotes?

Are you asking if kgray is scummy for her reasoning or that you're scummy for looking quite different day 1 to your last game?

Hopefully we see some more from you.

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Re: M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

#580 Post by BunnyGo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 am

Running top 4 townread results:

Bunny's: Flum, Vecna, TRPrado, Rdr
kgray's: summit, Vecna, worcej, Tom
rdrivera's: kgray, summit, Vecna, Bunny
bozotheclown's: Fluminator, rdrivera, TrPrado, summit
Tom Bombadil's: Vecna, hthefourth, Moscow, <none>
Macca573's: Bozo, Hellenic Riot, TrPrado, Flum
summit_fever's: bozo, bunny, flum, vecna

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