M1015 - Super Mafioso Bros

[bo_sox48]

Strange timing to try and save HR.

[kgray]

Convince me on Bozo, because I was actually just throwing out bait to see who would bite

I've never seen bozo not push cases. He normally gets caught up with technical details, but the only thing he's really done this game is argue with bo over BP and all that came out of that was bozo saying he may have misunderstood bo. That doesn't sound like solvey bozo to me.

There have been a few times where he's shown up and answered only direct questions and then vanished for long periods of time again, and he seems like he's being deliberately evasive.

[summit_fever]

Your excuses for flipping your vote around are somehow even worse than the way you were doing it in the first place.

I have to decipher this a bit. My excuses for flipping are worse than how I did the flipping.

Come on HR, I expect better than that from you. Doesn't make sense.

Was that the directive in the scum QT chat? Just keep poking Brian; he'll go nuts!

I agree with this, I think HB's posts are scummier than his votes. Can you please address why you think his flipping was scummy in the first place? I'm still not really seeing it.

What do you mean?

Jesus, I feel like I am on the defense stand, and all of this digging in to the minutiae of my logic isn't yielding us any hard suspects.

I think Hamilton's day 2 iso looks pretty good. I'm townreading him.

[Vecna]

Strange timing to try and save HR.

You cant see where a town-him would be coming from with his arguments over how your movements would look suspicious if he really felt HB was scum?

[Vecna]

Your excuses for flipping your vote around are somehow even worse than the way you were doing it in the first place.

I have to decipher this a bit. My excuses for flipping are worse than how I did the flipping.

Come on HR, I expect better than that from you. Doesn't make sense.

Was that the directive in the scum QT chat? Just keep poking Brian; he'll go nuts!

I agree with this, I think HB's posts are scummier than his votes. Can you please address why you think his flipping was scummy in the first place? I'm still not really seeing it.

What do you mean?

Jesus, I feel like I am on the defense stand, and all of this digging in to the minutiae of my logic isn't yielding us any hard suspects.

I think Hamilton's day 2 iso looks pretty good. I'm townreading him.

You actually think these posts sound good? Explain, please

"I expect better from you" is probably the #1 most used line by scum in forum mafia

[summit_fever]

##vote bo_sox

[bo_sox48]

Strange timing to try and save HR.

You cant see where a town-him would be coming from with his arguments over how your movements would look suspicious if he really felt HB was scum?

I already explained to bozo why I’m not voting for him, and yes, I can. I just think it’s odd that he’s been the lead wagon all day and now there’s people stepping out to fight that.

[Durga]

20~ minutes left. Can't do VC atm but bot should be accurate.

[kgray]

##vote bo_sox

Why?

[Jamiet99uk]

A sudden eruption of one-vote wagons!

Helpful!

[Hellenic Riot]

Do you think HR is town? HR was so hard to lynch in the Matrix game that I really fear leaving him. On the other side he fought a lot harder as scum. But would he try to change his meta? Pure WIFOM.

There's a bit of a contrast going on here in that one post you're feeling hopeless about the prospect of daykilling scum three times in a row, and then the next one you essentially admit you're daykilling me out of fear. If you think our prospects are so dim should we get it wrong today, why on earth are you throwing your vote away in such a baseless way in the first place?

I am scumreading you because of your insistence that scum could have targeted Damo, when all they need is 1 single vote to change the NK target (it's like you want to seem you don't know scum mechanics). And targeting Damo is completely dumb in the first place.

It's a majority-vote for scum. They may well have needed two changes, not one, so it is not impossible - especially if one or more of them were absent (like Macca was)

[Vecna]

I really have way too little townreads for this game

[summit_fever]

I have to decipher this a bit. My excuses for flipping are worse than how I did the flipping.

Come on HR, I expect better than that from you. Doesn't make sense.

Was that the directive in the scum QT chat? Just keep poking Brian; he'll go nuts!

What do you mean?

Jesus, I feel like I am on the defense stand, and all of this digging in to the minutiae of my logic isn't yielding us any hard suspects.

I think Hamilton's day 2 iso looks pretty good. I'm townreading him.

You actually think these posts sound good? Explain, please

"I expect better from you" is probably the #1 most used line by scum in forum mafia

Is it? I don't know that. I doubt HB knows that either. HB's iso reads to me like an honest effort at discussion even when he's facing somebody using hyperbole.

[Vecna]

Strange timing to try and save HR.

You cant see where a town-him would be coming from with his arguments over how your movements would look suspicious if he really felt HB was scum?

I already explained to bozo why I’m not voting for him, and yes, I can. I just think it’s odd that he’s been the lead wagon all day and now there’s people stepping out to fight that.

Which people are you suspicious off?

Im one of em. Do you think Kgray is looking shady here? Summit?

[Hellenic Riot]

Does it? HB's ISO to me looks like someone who's tried to keep Jamie and I at each other's throats

[Vecna]

I think Hamilton's day 2 iso looks pretty good. I'm townreading him.

You actually think these posts sound good? Explain, please

"I expect better from you" is probably the #1 most used line by scum in forum mafia

Is it? I don't know that. I doubt HB knows that either. HB's iso reads to me like an honest effort at discussion even when he's facing somebody using hyperbole.

Remember that super-cool response he had last game when we pressured him D2 just before lynching Chaqa? That made everyone back off, instantly?

You dont feel this is way more dramatized?

[summit_fever]

##vote bo_sox

Why?

I don't townread him and he hasn't done much of anything (yeah yeah, look who's talking)

[Hellenic Riot]

The only thing im scumreading HR for is how he treated the scumkill and danced around my slot after the kill failed.

not sure if thats a good enough reason. Its quite possible he's scum.

Summit is always an easy townread though. Nothing the slot has done has stood out, or sounded very believable so far to my ears.

I don't watch YouTube links, so I missed your claim. On the flip side, do you really think I'd come in scumreading someone I then knew to be a PR? It ain't like I'm a noob who is going to get credit from dumbtelling. Seems a pretty dubious thing to scumread me for.

Thats not my reasoning. My reasoning is you were casting doubt on my slot over the HB voting (specifically targeting me, which is a wifom thing smarter scum players often love to do when they know the slot is about to die).

Then when the NK failed, you were around talking, but the brief targeting of me stopped, almost like you knew I would soon claim to be BP.

Yes, theres other explanations for this as well.

You know I kept scumreading you today until it was pointed out that you'd claimed BP, yes?

[Vecna]

I don't watch YouTube links, so I missed your claim. On the flip side, do you really think I'd come in scumreading someone I then knew to be a PR? It ain't like I'm a noob who is going to get credit from dumbtelling. Seems a pretty dubious thing to scumread me for.

Thats not my reasoning. My reasoning is you were casting doubt on my slot over the HB voting (specifically targeting me, which is a wifom thing smarter scum players often love to do when they know the slot is about to die).

Then when the NK failed, you were around talking, but the brief targeting of me stopped, almost like you knew I would soon claim to be BP.

Yes, theres other explanations for this as well.

You know I kept scumreading you today until it was pointed out that you'd claimed BP, yes?

I really mustve missed these posts where u did that. Because I only remember one after I pointed it out that you were suddenly not giving me any attention whatsoever.

[Hellenic Riot]

Thats not my reasoning. My reasoning is you were casting doubt on my slot over the HB voting (specifically targeting me, which is a wifom thing smarter scum players often love to do when they know the slot is about to die).

Then when the NK failed, you were around talking, but the brief targeting of me stopped, almost like you knew I would soon claim to be BP.

Yes, theres other explanations for this as well.

You know I kept scumreading you today until it was pointed out that you'd claimed BP, yes?

I really mustve missed these posts where u did that. Because I only remember one after I pointed it out that you were suddenly not giving me any attention whatsoever.

I concentrated on HB, because scumreading you for protecting HB doesn't really work as a reason if HB isn't scum. But I made it clear I scumread you both in the post where I said it was up to the rest of the town to find the third mafia.