MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3081 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:16 pm

I haven't really taken the time to analyze all the believers/doubters of the two claims yet. We have about 30 hours to do that now and come up with our best plan. Much like ND - I really did and do think Jekyll is a liability long-term, so I wouldn't even be against lynching me today to prove my claim/plan and then letting town sort things out down the line.

I'm hoping we can use this combined with the Moriarty flip and any other information Sherlock or others come up with to solve this game in record time.


As said before then why WOULDNT the real Jekyll reveal himelf to counterclaim you and get a mafia at the SAME time
Also why not we reveal the entire town PR list while we are at it :D
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Like i said - if we can't find consensus anywhere else, lynching me is a safe play.

Yea, right you wanted to be lynched, that's literally the LAST thing you wanted

Unrelated to this post - doing a catchup in Flavius mode is actually pretty fun.
@Flavius - yes, basically. I suppose if you don't explicitly say "reaction test" no one quite gets what you're up to.

Although you thinking I havent been genuinely catching up arent new(you said it in a few posts above) it seems you had a change of heart, and then a re-change of heart :?

I don't necessarily see the Frostwind case but I also don't know him well enough to have a solid read either way.

If I had to list out my top 5 scum reads right now, they'd be roughly:
- Dargo-->We don't know
- EMC-->We don't know
- Vecna-->We don't know
- Rivera-->SCUM
- Cmdr-->We don't know

Throwing in town with his buddy once again, he goes on to defend rdrivera a few posts below

NOW he is all of a sudden ok with lynching frostwind and has no opinion either way...what a leader! Wanted to lynch EMC after the above post, and didn't provide a single reason...what a leader!

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3082 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:21 pm

Where is everyone...READ MY ISO BE CONVINCED BY MY ISO, VOTE CHAQA!!!

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#3083 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:25 pm

I see I am the Top Wagon as I get caught up. It seems I am formulating my own meta for coming across as scummy.

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#3084 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:26 pm

BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:25 pm
I see I am the Top Wagon as I get caught up. It seems I am formulating my own meta for coming across as scummy.
I really really don't understand the case on you, can someone provide some clarity on that

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#3085 Post by purplecow » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:30 pm

Well being sick and fake claiming PR on D1 does seem strange.

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#3086 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:40 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:20 pm


DEMON - Can you specifically tell us who you commuted each time?

KalelChase wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:53 pm


Appreciate the clarification. I did go read it myself. I must have confused it with the way it worked in an earlier game. This is actually the first time I realized that roles with the same name could work differently (I've only been a PR once).
I am finding this very hard to believe in the third game Kalel didn't read the Roll PMs and understand them with all the data entry and spreadsheets. I'm not sure if it is indicative of anything but seems really odd.

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#3087 Post by xorxes » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:40 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:26 pm
BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:25 pm
I see I am the Top Wagon as I get caught up. It seems I am formulating my own meta for coming across as scummy.
I really really don't understand the case on you, can someone provide some clarity on that
For me it's mostly process of elimination. Everyone else either voted for Bob and/or rivera, or was talked about by rivera in a way I don't think likley he would talk about a teammate.

Reviewing the voting record, the only one that gives me pause at the moment is Kitsune. She voted for Bob and then changed her mind and switched to bozo, She voted for rivera, but then changed her mind and switched to Tom (before the claim). So maybe it could be her as well, although I think that kind of thing may be unnecessarily risky.

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#3088 Post by xorxes » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 pm

BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:40 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:20 pm


DEMON - Can you specifically tell us who you commuted each time?

KalelChase wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:53 pm


Appreciate the clarification. I did go read it myself. I must have confused it with the way it worked in an earlier game. This is actually the first time I realized that roles with the same name could work differently (I've only been a PR once).
I am finding this very hard to believe in the third game Kalel didn't read the Roll PMs and understand them with all the data entry and spreadsheets. I'm not sure if it is indicative of anything but seems really odd.
He could be scum, but I doubt he's in Moriarty's team unless he was bussing like crazy.

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3089 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:46 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:21 pm
Where is everyone...READ MY ISO BE CONVINCED BY MY ISO, VOTE CHAQA!!!
I read it and agree with pretty much all of it. I thought his claim was strange when it happened and couldn't understand why nobody thought the same thing.
I tried to push it D2 but everyone was distracted by the flimsy Frost Wagon

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#3090 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:49 pm

FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:26 pm
BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:25 pm
I see I am the Top Wagon as I get caught up. It seems I am formulating my own meta for coming across as scummy.
I really really don't understand the case on you, can someone provide some clarity on that
Its based on voting patterns I think...

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3091 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:58 pm

BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:46 pm
FlaviusAetius wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:21 pm
Where is everyone...READ MY ISO BE CONVINCED BY MY ISO, VOTE CHAQA!!!
I read it and agree with pretty much all of it. I thought his claim was strange when it happened and couldn't understand why nobody thought the same thing.
I tried to push it D2 but everyone was distracted by the flimsy Frost Wagon
Vote with me then please I’m eating dinner now and I can’t finish my ISO pleas finish it for me

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3092 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:59 pm

VOTE COUNT 4.7

BionicMole(5) - Vecna, Temasek22, xorxes, Chaqa, bozotheclown
KalelChase(2) - DemonRHK, Tom Bombadil
FlaviusAetius(2) - dargorygel, purplecow
DemonRHK(1) - KalelChase
bozotheclown(1) - Kitsune
CmdrLikely(1) - ND
Chaqa(1) - FlaviusAetius

Unvoted: BionicMole, CmdrLikely, yavuzovic

Currently BIONICMOLE is set to be scheduled.

Everyone must vote by phase end.

*ONE HOUR REMAINS*
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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3093 Post by Chaqa » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 pm

@Flavius

But what motivation would I possibly have to do all of this as scum?

Occam’s Razor, man. I had a bold idea and got sick like immediately, didn’t think it through, and had to do the best I could while on all kinds of meds to sort it out. You’re making a lot out of nothing and anyone who has played with me knows I don’t really think things through that much lol

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3094 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 pm

I’m on mobile so I can still see stuff guys it’s one hour left vote CHAQA!

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#3095 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 pm

##Vote Chaqa

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#3096 Post by Chaqa » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:04 pm

I’m realizing my normal vote and reads analysis just doesn’t work so well when half the scum aren’t linked whatsoever to the other half...

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#3097 Post by Chaqa » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:04 pm

BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 pm
##Vote Chaqa
Interesting Bionic votes for me over the more viable Kalel wagon. If one flips scum the other likely follows.

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#3098 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:05 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 pm
@Flavius

But what motivation would I possibly have to do all of this as scum?

Occam’s Razor, man. I had a bold idea and got sick like immediately, didn’t think it through, and had to do the best I could while on all kinds of meds to sort it out. You’re making a lot out of nothing and anyone who has played with me knows I don’t really think things through that much lol
Read the 2nd pillar I think it was and I included another motivation later as well. Also we are NOT depending on your meta, and what about the other contradictions?
Bob and Vapor both made the same mistake, you wanted to lynch vapor though
You didn’t think the real Jekyll would reveal themselves to CC you because you wanted to protect them, but you said yourself Jekyll should reveal themselves before and after you retracted your claim you said this

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3099 Post by FlaviusAetius » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:08 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:04 pm
BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 pm
##Vote Chaqa
Interesting Bionic votes for me over the more viable Kalel wagon. If one flips scum the other likely follows.
What’s the case for Kalel??

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Re: MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

#3100 Post by BionicMole » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:09 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:04 pm
BionicMole wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:03 pm
##Vote Chaqa
Interesting Bionic votes for me over the more viable Kalel wagon. If one flips scum the other likely follows.
There is still time

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