MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

@Vecna What's this Cuno about?

[damo666]

No tilde I hope

[xorxes]

I mean that is something you all have to weigh if you think a day save outweighs the role removing a player every odd night so be it. I'll do the best I can to save people. But, 3 death's a night is going to stack up. That has to be mitigated somehow. The town can't sustain those losses for long before we become the minority (assuming the town takes the bulk of the deaths). It's certainly possible that Jack/Hyde kill within the mafia groups as well.

I think it's very risky to keep the role in play personally. If things go wrong (mislynches, Hyde/Jack/Mafia getting fortunate on their kills and hitting PRs and not each other, a whole bunch of factors) then town is going to run out of breathing room real quick. Then it's going to be too late. Better to remove it early and just take it out of the equation. That's my opinion on it. That was my assessment when I got the role and went through with my opening.

Why save yourself if you wanted to die? Why make us waste a lynch?

[damo666]

To waste a night?

[xorxes]

Oh, one last thing:

Some scum leans of mine from day 1 that haven't been cleared up one way or the other (feel free to pick up my BunnyBaton (TM) and run with them)

1) PurpleCow -- I don't like him...I think he's scummy noob

Some example of something scummy?

2) FlavorFlav -- somethings up, but it is hard to post this much and hide. Still...take a look someone

He is very hard to read, because it's very hard to distinguish his town nonsense from him scum nonsense.

3) Xorxes -- he's seeming better today, but yesterday was bad

Because I didn't vote for you today (yet)?

[xorxes]

2: Tom doesnt mind Xorxes becaus "he found his way back onto the wagon". He found his way back onto the wagon 1 minute before deadline, after 2 people shifted putting it on 6-4 with that little time to go. He knew bob was dead when he voted. This is exactly what scum would do, so I really dont know why Tom feels this looked good on Xorxes. This is not the critical thinking Town-Tom shows.

When I voted I thought I was breaking the 5-5 tie between Vapor and Bob that emc had created. My vote came after purple moved from Vapor to Bob, but I had not seen that move yet.

[xorxes]

Oh, one last thing:

Some scum leans of mine from day 1 that haven't been cleared up one way or the other (feel free to pick up my BunnyBaton (TM) and run with them)

1) PurpleCow -- I don't like him...I think he's scummy noob

2) FlavorFlav -- somethings up, but it is hard to post this much and hide. Still...take a look someone

3) Xorxes -- he's seeming better today, but yesterday was bad

Really not seeing what youre seeing with Flav. That dude oozes so much town.

Have you seen scum Flav in action? He is like this on steroids.

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny what you got against Frost wagon

I mean “Frost” ... “wagon”...what’s not to dislike.

Seriously though, did you read my stuff. There was some work there. I agree frost has some issues. And I wish he answered my question. But whatever. You do you. *Don’t* read what I’m writing.

[xorxes]

Also, I wonder what the gambler's up to, hope she actually gets some cool powers

What a scummy fishing kind of post.

[xorxes]

WHAT DOES PR MEAN?!

Power Role, so not VT (Vanilla Town).

Usually refers to town Power Roles only.

Xorxes, come out to play with me. I have some questions for you.

I'm off to work in five minutes.

[xorxes]

So what extra information did you think I couldve had to vote Chaqa there?

You tell me. Why did you think his claim was fake. That seemed extremely improbable to me at the time.

[xorxes]

To waste a night?

How is it better to waste a night than to waste a lynch?

[damo666]

To waste a night?

How is it better to waste a night than to waste a lynch?

Isn't it good to get through a night without kills?

[dargorygel]

I think we should keep J/H alive for now.

In addition to others' comments: the three possible kills each night are not only possibly stopped by the PR's, but saying we will have three kills implies a cooperation between the scum teams and Hyde/Jack that doesn't really exist. As we saw N1. A 'best' NK will seem like the best to both scumteams. And if they start WIFOMing themselves, that's a grand thing for us. Since they are not working together, it is possible (maybe likely) that they will combine killshots. Again.

I also think town is in better shape than some of you do. Our first lynch was wildly successful, and the N1 empty action result put us ahead. While there is the threat of multiple kills each night, we are better off than we were as the game started.

[Vecna]

Oh, one last thing:

Some scum leans of mine from day 1 that haven't been cleared up one way or the other (feel free to pick up my BunnyBaton (TM) and run with them)

1) PurpleCow -- I don't like him...I think he's scummy noob

2) FlavorFlav -- somethings up, but it is hard to post this much and hide. Still...take a look someone

3) Xorxes -- he's seeming better today, but yesterday was bad

Really not seeing what youre seeing with Flav. That dude oozes so much town.

Have you seen scum Flav in action? He is like this on steroids.

No I have not. Still, youre telling me he can fabricate this level of random nonsense and make it all sound believable?

[Vecna]

I think we should keep J/H alive for now.

In addition to others' comments: the three possible kills each night are not only possibly stopped by the PR's, but saying we will have three kills implies a cooperation between the scum teams and Hyde/Jack that doesn't really exist. As we saw N1. A 'best' NK will seem like the best to both scumteams. And if they start WIFOMing themselves, that's a grand thing for us. Since they are not working together, it is possible (maybe likely) that they will combine killshots. Again.

I also think town is in better shape than some of you do. Our first lynch was wildly successful, and the N1 empty action result put us ahead. While there is the threat of multiple kills each night, we are better off than we were as the game started.

Huh? Who actually said they think town is in bad shape? The game literally could not have gone better unless 2 scum from each faction and Jack somehow ended up dead during the night.

[Vecna]

Also, Xorxes, id like you to answer that question I asked on the last page

[KalelChase]

And goddamn it Kalel. Come back here with that voice of god, that superman spreadsheet and talk to us! Don't just do a post to get you above modkill and disappear. You can help! You can try winning for once! Come on, don't let the Vixen (Kitsune) win again...

Yeah, I'm spending more time writing down data then interacting. Buy the time I've finished reading it's too much to put in one post (despite liking NDs synopses). While I'm against 'noise' posts, the amount I've contributed has been lame.

So going cold turkey on the data for a bit. So the below is a gut check that I reserve the right to modify.

ND is too valuable. Not going to lynch him ever. Bunny too entertaining.

SCUM
Frost
Vapor
e.m.c.

SCUMLEAN
Bunny (Sorry, but the the laying low early and now over-posting are two extremes that stand out to me)
Kit (If you show up I'll move you - I've been busy with personal stuff too)
Darg
Damo
Purple
X
Flavor

CHAOS
Chaq - Lynch eventually, Is there a good case he was on Bobs team then prioritize (if we get rid of a Scum team there's one less NK right?)
Veca

NEUTRAL (and a whole pile of newbs)
Tem

TOWNLEAN
Flav
Bozo
RDR

TOWNCLEAN
ND

##VOTE FROSTWIND

Again, going to do some ISOs in the next 9 hours... will share.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote rdrivera

I think Vecna saying Rivera would bus as scum is not taking the setup into account. If rivera and Bob are on the same scum tram as I suspect, I think rivera would protect there given the small teams make it difficult to justify bussing.

I think xorx did not pile on when the lynch was already decided, so I don’t think saying is was just a vote for show is correct.

I don’t like voting emc here either as he was instrumental in lynching Bob. Granted he could be on the other scum team so that carries less weight than normal, but I’m open to waiting on him rather than lynching now

[Tom Bombadil]

Could also be convinced to vote damo - or a lurker. Will not vote ND, xorx, bo, Vecna or Flav