MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

How do you mean Bozo feels off?

I agree he's playing differently to his usual style (hence my own scumlean on him), but I'd like to hear what you've discovered.

And...

What is Discovered Lynch Assurance?

Discovered Lynch is my play on a Discovered Check in chess. You place yourself on the wagon to prop it up, then bail on it to get your real target (The #2 wagon) Lynched, and I think he may have been trying to ensure (assurance) that came to pass.

As for bozo, he made a lot of posts D1 but not with a ton on content. He floated the idea of a town pr outting and being lynched D1.

His vote went from frost for self voting (on the notion he didn't wish to offend town) to doing that exact thing by parking on a missing player, going to vapor for less than 60 seconds before flipping back.

I was going to ask what you meant as well. I am still not following who you think I was trying to get lynched.

Computer_Genius was my preferred lynch among the three top wagons. When emc voted with three minutes left the vote was Vapor 5 Bob 5 Computer 4. I waited to see if anyone would change their vote. With one minute left and the vote still tied between Vapor and Bob, I changed my vote to Vapor to break the tie, as I thought he was more likely to be scum between the two. When I posted my vote and the thread refreshed, purple and xorxes had both voted for Bob. Since I knew Bob was then ahead, I switched my vote back to Computer to reduce the risk of another tie while indicating Computer was my preferred lynch.

So you werent refreshing like crazy? And how are you going to excuse literally everything else you said? I dont believe in going off of meta, because then people can hide behind it, and thats probably exactly what you are doing right now, and with everything else?
##vote bozo

[FlaviusAetius]

How could he have gone back and read? He said he did not know whether Jack needed to kill his victims with his own knife in order for them to count for his win condition. If he had gone back and read he would have known.

He was aware that a knife item was in play. My question is how was he aware, if he had not read Jack's role?

good point, could of just been a coincidence though, but definetly something to consider if tom does anything else

It will be much harder to catch Tom on an offside like that.

Doesnt mean we still shouldnt be looking, and doesnt mean we cant get Tom on other things, I think it'll be fine

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote Chaqa

Lets gooo

Hyde does not have a NK again until N3, if Chaqa is Jekyll and wants to get lynched to take away Hyde's NK, it should not happen until D3.

Are you indicating you do not believe his claim?

agreed, even if Chaqa's claim is fake, we lynch Chaqa then

[ND]

I'll post some tomorrow. I really don't understand why he continues the charade he knows that if i get lynched he is next 100%. And he knows that we will both be lynched anyway. It's pretty pointless. Anyway, that's all i got for now. Any questions tag me.

[Kitsune]

I'm currently leaning towards Chaqa as the fake-claim, although he can help to allay my suspicions by answering my question :)

##Vote Chaqa

(for now)

[FlaviusAetius]

I have a feeling that Bob's teammates were not around at EoD. The last minute way things happened also make me think ComputerGenius/TomBomb is on the OTHER mafia team from Bob, with his teammates being amongst the cadre that lynched Bob (EMC, Damo, Xorx, purple).

I still think Vapor/new Vapor may be Jack.

Dargo I’m still suspicious of too.

bo_sox replaced Computer_Genius, Tom replaced Vapor.

and bosox responded to my question as if he was vapor, its making me very confused about what he thinks he is and what he's doing...Im pretty sure it was a scumslip and I dont even believe in scumslips

[BunnyGo]

I have a feeling that Bob's teammates were not around at EoD. The last minute way things happened also make me think ComputerGenius/TomBomb is on the OTHER mafia team from Bob, with his teammates being amongst the cadre that lynched Bob (EMC, Damo, Xorx, purple).

I still think Vapor/new Vapor may be Jack.

Dargo I’m still suspicious of too.

bo_sox replaced Computer_Genius, Tom replaced Vapor.

and bosox responded to my question as if he was vapor, its making me very confused about what he thinks he is and what he's doing...Im pretty sure it was a scumslip and I dont even believe in scumslips

Can you link to that? I couldn't find it just now.

[FlaviusAetius]

I was ROLEBLOCKED and TARGETED for NK

I ATE BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE I AM A LITERAL GOD. Bow before me.

how can we trust you did that? and how did you do that? what are you claiming here buddy

[BunnyGo]

I'm currently leaning towards Chaqa as the fake-claim, although he can help to allay my suspicions by answering my question :)

##Vote Chaqa

(for now)

Funny, I was thinking the other way. ##VOTE Kitsune (for now)

[BunnyGo]

I was ROLEBLOCKED and TARGETED for NK

I ATE BOTH OF THOSE BECAUSE I AM A LITERAL GOD. Bow before me.

how can we trust you did that? and how did you do that? what are you claiming here buddy

YAY! We get to watch Flav post in real time! So exciting!

[FlaviusAetius]

Hey everyone. This is the first time I feel like I’ve subbed into a game and didn’t have a completely daunting read ahead of me to catch up. I hope to be caught up after work today and ready to go.

What are your first impressions after seeing the role you got?
And do you think Vapor handled it well?

@bo_sox same question to you

My impressions are that I am the role I was given, and Vapor handled my role extremely well even though he didn’t know it. Thanks for asking such a finely tuned, worthwhile question.

Here it is @bunny

[FlaviusAetius]

You mafia bastards really thought it would be that easy?

Come on now. I am a LITERAL GOD BITCHES

Calm down, you’re starting to turn orange.

xDDDDDDDDD

[FlaviusAetius]

##vote Tom

Think about it

I want an explanation for this. I can live with xorxes - he has an explanation. Though conveniently it isn't one I can counter since I'm not Vapor. I don't know why he said what he said. It didn't strike me as off, but then again I'm looking at it through the lens of knowing I am town - so I'm not holding it against xorx.

answer my question @tom
What are your impressions after seeing Vapor's role?
Do you think Vapor played it smart, or were you surprised by how he did it?

[FlaviusAetius]

lol, ##Vote ND

I don't believe any of this, and tbh I think getting rid of him as a policy lynch due to his awfulness is worth it.

no its not, this isnt the leading you PROMISED you would give

[BunnyGo]

What are your first impressions after seeing the role you got?
And do you think Vapor handled it well?

@bo_sox same question to you

My impressions are that I am the role I was given, and Vapor handled my role extremely well even though he didn’t know it. Thanks for asking such a finely tuned, worthwhile question.

Here it is @bunny

Thanks. I think he was joking because of the "even though he didn't know it" line. I think he's being an annoying pedant to dodge the spirit of your question by taking it literally (how did Vapor handle his--computer's--role). The answer "well. but he didn't know what the role was".

By the way, I really like all the rabbit holes you're talking about. Makes me feel like I'm home.

[FlaviusAetius]

xorx - what do you think of my rivera observation. You are voting for me and have yet to make any comment on the one thing I have actually done so far.

I haven't checked it yet. I always tend to scumread rivera, so I can probably be easily convinced.

wait you voted Tom without even looking at what he said...
LOL WHAT

[FlaviusAetius]

It worked as I thought it would and the result of my play is evident. No deaths. Anyone can read through my run posts they all had a purpose almost each had a breadcrumb to some PR. I made it obvious to scum and they took the bait.

uhhh what? im so confused right now are you saying your jekyll?

[FlaviusAetius]

So while I wont live long at least I bought the town a night of no deaths and a fighting chance. Lynch me or chaqa it doesn't matter I can't save myself again n2 but yeah I am jeckle

ok we can discuss this later, today we should just focus on lynching someone else and just ignore chaqa and ND

but chaqa is saying she saved herself and ate literally everything(very doubtful)
and ND is saying he ate everything(RBing and NK)(very doubtful)

I think their both lying

[BunnyGo]

So while I wont live long at least I bought the town a night of no deaths and a fighting chance. Lynch me or chaqa it doesn't matter I can't save myself again n2 but yeah I am jeckle

ok we can discuss this later, today we should just focus on lynching someone else and just ignore chaqa and ND

but chaqa is saying she saved herself and ate literally everything(very doubtful)
and ND is saying he ate everything(RBing and NK)(very doubtful)

I think their both lying

Do you have any PMs from the mods you'd like to share?

[BunnyGo]

So while I wont live long at least I bought the town a night of no deaths and a fighting chance. Lynch me or chaqa it doesn't matter I can't save myself again n2 but yeah I am jeckle

ok we can discuss this later, today we should just focus on lynching someone else and just ignore chaqa and ND

but chaqa is saying she saved herself and ate literally everything(very doubtful)
and ND is saying he ate everything(RBing and NK)(very doubtful)

I think their both lying

Do you have any PMs from the mods you'd like to share?

So far nobody is CCing the RB, and we don't have *anybody* else claiming a doctor saved them. I hope somebody wakes up and does soon, because if there's nothing then it's insane.