MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1721 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:48 am

Will look for longer reasons why I'm gut feeling that and respond at more length. Care to discuss yourself?

With EP, I hated their late shift to bozo

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#1722 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:49 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:47 am
Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:45 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:44 am
Ok Neph...we're both here. Let's brainstorm. Let's storm brain's castle.
Lets do it, shall we come up with the three wagons for today?

- EP
- Maniac
- Kalel

Discuss
Of those three I'm feeling EP and to a lesser extent Kalel. Not so much Maniac. The strongest thing against him is that both people who voted against him last time are town. But that doesn't mean they're correct.
I'm not saying any of the three are town or scum. My logic is,
1. Almost everyone is scumreading at least one of the three
2. Gives direction for focused analysis

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#1723 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:50 am

Kalel's shift wasn't much better. That said, I think any of us voting for bozo are likely thanos (I don't remember what I am...and I'm too lazy to check the PM)

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#1724 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:51 am

Opening up the mid 50s pages now. Gonna check what happened.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1725 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:52 am

I think most things except mechanics this early are meaningless...see all my posts. Somehow that shit convinced most people to go from scumlean to not mentioning me at all. HOW CAN YOU NOT MENTION SOMEONE THIS ANNOYING!? It's because only the mechanics matter this early.

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#1726 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:52 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:48 am
Will look for longer reasons why I'm gut feeling that and respond at more length. Care to discuss yourself?

With EP, I hated their late shift to bozo
Kalel confuses me, he's playing for himself not even the guise of town so its hard to work out. Occams razor says he's SK due to this but I really doubt it.

Maniac has some decent prods but lacks a cohesive case and push. Its like he published his case then let it lie (for a contrast, look at me vs bozo)

EP feels different to previous games, seems less driven and analytical. His 2nd half of D1 was actually reasonably good from memory but again the EOD I found a little whack

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1727 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:54 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:52 am
I think most things except mechanics this early are meaningless...see all my posts. Somehow that shit convinced most people to go from scumlean to not mentioning me at all. HOW CAN YOU NOT MENTION SOMEONE THIS ANNOYING!? It's because only the mechanics matter this early.
I would argue the exact opposite. Mechanics are fixed and so anyone reading them should come to the same conclusion on how best to play. Scum can push them for easy towncred and town can push them cause they wanna win. The most telling things early on is people who let on they have too much information or are just incredibly awkward and uncomfortable (most people prefer town over scum)

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1728 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:55 am

Actually @bunny, you got an hour or so and wanna do something I've wanted to try for a while but never done?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1729 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:59 am

Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:55 am
Actually @bunny, you got an hour or so and wanna do something I've wanted to try for a while but never done?
It's 1 AM here...but I can try for a little while.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1730 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:01 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:59 am
Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:55 am
Actually @bunny, you got an hour or so and wanna do something I've wanted to try for a while but never done?
It's 1 AM here...but I can try for a little while.
oof, oh well my suggestion is

We do a focused on read on the last 5 pages of D1. For every post we determine whether the motivation behind it is likely to progress the game or derail the game.

We then post the results here for each person.

It not only gives us a chance to understand each other but if we agree that someone looks pretty dodge then that would be rather useful I think

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#1731 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:02 am

OK, that's sort of what I was doing now anyways.

I just wasn't writing things down...so your idea sounds better.

How should we format it?

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1732 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:04 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:02 am
OK, that's sort of what I was doing now anyways.

I just wasn't writing things down...so your idea sounds better.

How should we format it?
Name - A,B,C
A - Posts that progress
B - Posts the derail
C - I really cant work it out
How does that sound?


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#1734 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:04 am

Mostly I was trying to decide if Kitsune was Tony or Scum. Or some other reason they would off world him.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1735 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:05 am

Im gonna start on page 52 then move forwards

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1736 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:05 am

Nephthys wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:04 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:02 am
OK, that's sort of what I was doing now anyways.

I just wasn't writing things down...so your idea sounds better.

How should we format it?
Name - A,B,C
A - Posts that progress
B - Posts the derail
C - I really cant work it out
How does that sound?
Cool.

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#1737 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:12 am

Actually, after starting this I'm thinking it isnt really useful until later on. Too much remains speculative at this stage to have any help

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#1738 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:25 am

Looking back, I dislike Jamie's vote and voting logic.

He literally stated that ND was different. That's it. He specifically stated that ND was also NOT in his scum meta which should render the change NAI. Yet he starts a wagon on it.

If we look at his only reads post
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:42 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:38 pm
I will assume everyone is voting for a scum read. Please fill in any missing information:

scum survey:
Jamie: ?, Bozotheclown, Worcej, ND
Bozo is listed ABOVE ND yet he never changes his vote or really mentions bozo further.

Why was Jamie scumreading bozo you ask? Good idea, because I cant tell. The only time he MENTIONS bozo is to ask him to drop the survey. This is lhf to the max


Conclusion: Jamie's votes and scum reads do not add up. His reasoning to scumread ND was also deplorably weak.

##vote jamie

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#1739 Post by BunnyGo » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:28 am

Xorxes - A
rdrivera - C
damo - B
Jamie - almost didn't post anything, C?
Kitsune - A but useless; still lawful stupid in my mind (got anything to say about that Kit?)
Nephthys - 1 post C
Chaqa - 2 post C
BunnyGo - C just a bunch of righteous indignation
Vaporwave - 1 post C
e.m.c^42 - A
yuuki - did he meet the minimum posts? C
foodcoats - A
Kalel - A but why is he waiting to post his scum guess? That feels more like B
Foxcastle - A
Maniac - C
brainbomb - A
EspressoPatronum - A except he specifically said "not feeling bozo wagon" and then was deciding vote...for a horrible reason.

God, @Espresso you claimed you trusted me. Why the fuck would you follow my vote? Please explain

Ok, nobody else posted in that time.

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Re: MAFIA 49 -Avengers "Re-release"- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#1740 Post by Nephthys » Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:29 am

Damo had some good stuff at the start but has really tapered off. Looking for more from him if he wants to stay on my townside

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