Re: After 20 years of fighting the Taliban
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:12 pm
I judge on actions. It could well be that Trump would have been just as big a failure here as Biden has been, but we will never know. It is difficult to see Trump doing well based on his initial efforts, but equally it is difficult to imagine him failing quite as badly as Biden managed. Regardless, for someone so excited by "whataboutism" it's remarkable how quickly you jump on the "but what about Trump" bandwagon. Who cares about Trump? He's yesterday's failure and Biden will firmly kill off any appetite in the US to elect those who should have retired to the golf course a decade ago.
Is this a serious point? I can accept it as just a reactionary piece of unthinking political bias in an attempt to defend Biden, but if you genuinely think the two situations are at all comparable then it's pointless continuing the discussion.flash2015 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:57 pmWas this you too? You were quite happy to allow the US to abandon the Kurds.
What would you have had him do? Erdoğan isn't a problem of Trump's making.
Would you have preferred him to to have left US troops as bystanders in the middle of a confused war zone? Would you have preferred him to have US troops open fire on a NATO ally? Would you have preferred him to try and cripple NATO by seeking to remove Turkey, who provide both a key position and significant military strength?