Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

Any political discussion should go here. This subforum will be moderated differently than other forums.
Forum rules
1.) No personal threats.
2.) No doxxing/revealing personal information.
3.) No spam.
4.) No circumventing press restrictions.
5.) No racism, sexism, homophobia, or derogatory posts.
Message
Author
Octavious
Posts: 3843
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:16 pm
Location: The Five Valleys, Gloucestershire
Karma: 2605
Contact:

Re: Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

#21 Post by Octavious » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:43 pm

I don't believe that black people or people of colour are mentioned in either article.

It would be helpful, perhaps, if you translated your first line into English. Maybe I'm missing something in the question.

User avatar
orathaic
Bronze Donator
Bronze Donator
Posts: 1536
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:20 pm
Karma: 393
Contact:

Re: Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

#22 Post by orathaic » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:19 am

micha wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:35 pm
orathaic wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:18 pm
Randomizer wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:12 pm
But most of the US deaths were Democrats. persons of color, and poor so they don't count in Republican minds.
Can that be true? A real failure if so. My understanding is that the elderly vote Republican and die from Covid. So managing to kill more young Democrats means they have been put at risk, forced to work, commute, and study in unsafe environments, to prop up the profits of a few billionaires.

I would be surprised, though not too surprised (also, however many deaths in prisons I'm pretty sure neither Democrats nor Republicans count convicts as people, or let them vote).
Black and Hispanic people are disproportionately affected https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e1.htm

“ Disparities in COVID-19 incidence and deaths among Hispanic persons and other underrepresented racial and ethnic groups are well documented”
Yes, certainly. There is no denying that societal systemic racism has for many years left non-white Americans worse of both financially, and medically.

As a result, you see lower life expectancy (particularly in indigenous populations), and move working class individuals whose jobs prohibit working from home. Both medically and financially they will die more from covid. However historic lower life expectancy means many of them have already been killed and this will not figure into the figures for elderly white folks dying from covid.

Not having any choice but to go to work (even during a pandemic) is not as bad as slavery, but it is still pretty fucked up.

cormorant
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:22 am
Karma: 44
Contact:

Re: Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

#23 Post by cormorant » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:49 am

Octavious wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:43 pm
I don't believe that black people or people of colour are mentioned in either article.

It would be helpful, perhaps, if you translated your first line into English. Maybe I'm missing something in the question.
did PM BJ block CNBC and NPR =
Did prime minister Boris Johnson block access to 2 US news outlets?

The context you may be missing is that Black Americans vote Democratic by about 9:1 and are mostly concentrated in Urban areas. Urban areas as a whole are about 7:3 Democratic.

Starting in 2018, more Dems began to vote by mail for a variety of reasons, especially to combat Republican vote suppression strategies of engineering long wait times in urban polling places. So that is why they did not want to count the mail in vote in Pennsylvania.

There are other states where similar things happened in 2020. The sabotage of the USPost Office was part of the strategy. Does that make sense?

Octavious
Posts: 3843
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:16 pm
Location: The Five Valleys, Gloucestershire
Karma: 2605
Contact:

Re: Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

#24 Post by Octavious » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:49 am

It does, but it is not convincing. The vast majority of black votes across the US were not treated in that way. The reason Pennsylvania was selected for various actions was simply because it was close, and I suspect because Republican internal polling suggested they should have won. Those news outlets did not mention black people because they did not consider it a racial story either.

cormorant
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:22 am
Karma: 44
Contact:

Re: Joe Biden sworn in as 46th US President

#25 Post by cormorant » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:55 pm

If it were only Pennsylvania and only one time that might make sense. But this is a consistent strategy and part of an array of tactics the Republicans use to try and suppress urban and minority votes. Republicans know where Democrats tend to live, this is targeted.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/st ... ty-voting/
and not a new story
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/23/65978427 ... alist-says

These kind of efforts ramped up by Republicans after they repealed parts of the 1965 Voting Rights Acts. Which was designed to permit discrimination on the basis of race.
https://www.propublica.org/article/voti ... -state-map

Here's Trump trying to throw out votes in urban Wisconsin
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/pol ... 437897002/

And here's Republicans trying to throw out Democratic votes in Texas
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/01/us/p ... icans.html

Ohio makes voting difficult and inaccessible for urban voters
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/el ... s-turnout/

This not something both parties do in the United States, and there are definitely more examples.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests