The question was for how long were the two major 'traditional' parties in power before the Labour movement had any effect?Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:44 amNot long at all. Labour was founded in 1900, spent a decade or so as a minor party (5% of the vote in 1906, 7% in 1910 etc), became the 2nd largest party in 1918, and we had the first Labour PM in 1924. So using their minor party size as a sensible starting point, we're talking a progression from also rans to dominant big two status in around a decade.
And no, the green movement does not live and die in the Labour Party. There are strong and growing green movements within all the major parties. But the Green Party, which is a hard left environmentalist party, very much competes with Labour to provide a natural home for its members. This was especially true when Corbyn was in charge.
Labour Unions existed long before 1900 I'm sure.