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Zero Center survive

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:36 pm
by Crazy Anglican
How does one occur?

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:42 pm
by goldfinger0303
By being eliminated on the turn someone hits 18. Game ends before the disband phase.

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
by boylee
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:51 pm
by Jamiet99uk
Yeah it's a technicality that to be completely eliminated you need zero SCs and also zero units.

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm
by Jamiet99uk
boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:25 am
by David E. Cohen
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm
boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.
By the actual rulebook, a player in this situation cannot participate in a draw. Only players "with pieces on the board" can do so and they "share equally" in a draw. Most platforms have house rules which modify this.

Re: Zero Center survive

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:35 pm
by Jamiet99uk
David E. Cohen wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:25 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:53 pm
boylee wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:42 am
What's even funnier IMO is that you can, in theory, survive indefinitely with positive number of centers but no units.
True - if you hold one or more SCs outside your home centres, but at some point your remaining units are displaced with no retreat option and so have to disband. You cannot build again because you have no home SCs, but assuming nobody goes and captures your remaining SC(s), you're not eliminated.
By the actual rulebook, a player in this situation cannot participate in a draw. Only players "with pieces on the board" can do so and they "share equally" in a draw. Most platforms have house rules which modify this.
I don't believe this one does.