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Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:18 pm
by flash2015
Oh wow. I agree. As Uncle Ben said "with great power comes great responsibility". With this huge breach in trust you really have no choice but to ban him completely.

On a side note, how did he change his RR? I remember I asked this question a while back for ghug when he was a mod and he said it required sql access (I believed there was an error in my RR). Did Magnetic have direct sql access????

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:01 pm
by bo_sox48
We are not going to divulge the tools our moderators use, but no, Magnetic did not have database access. The introduction of excused missed turns came with a new set of moderator tools that made what he was doing possible without directly connecting to our database, which is one reason why these changes are so helpful but also an avenue for potential abuse. The failsafe for preventing and catching abuse is that each of these actions are clearly and permanently logged (as is the case with any mod action taken), which is why he was caught instead of getting away with it.

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:53 pm
by flash2015
I wasn't really asking for minute details (to be picky, it is hard to keep implementation secret when the code is open source), but it is great you have an audit trail. Thanks for the answer!

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:45 pm
by Restitution
flash2015 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:53 pm
I wasn't really asking for minute details (to be picky, it is hard to keep implementation secret when the code is open source)
Most players and mods can't read code.

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:50 pm
by Chaqa
Fasces was perma banned for disclosing mod tools way back when, so that's a somewhat serious thing, from my understanding.

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:11 am
by Squigs44
Restitution wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:45 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:53 pm
I wasn't really asking for minute details (to be picky, it is hard to keep implementation secret when the code is open source)
Most players and mods can't read code.
Half the dev's cant figure out what's going on either ;)

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:42 am
by MadMarx
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:11 am
Half the dev's cant figure out what's going on either ;)

Dang Squiggs44 that’s harsh, you know jmo will read this eventually... 🤣

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:46 am
by Squigs44
MadMarx wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:42 am
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:11 am
Half the dev's cant figure out what's going on either ;)

Dang Squiggs44 that’s harsh, you know jmo will read this eventually... 🤣
Jmo is the half that can. I'm the half that cant

Re: Moderator Team Announcement

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:30 am
by MadMarx
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:46 am

Jmo is the half that can. I'm the half that cant
Your implication was clear, I was joking too... I think mine is better! 😉