MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[y2kjbk]

oh you think Vecna should have scum-read worcej/yav, not town-read them. I disagree.

[Durga]

he didn't, he hounded rdrivera. he openly said he thinks yav/worcej couldn't know that there was a counterclaim to their armor out there and wouldn't risk it as scum.

This doesn't even make sense because there are two armours. I also don't understand his scum read on Rd based on his flimsy theory. Which I guess, is now a scum read on me, and a disregard of his theory (hahahahaha).

[Durga]

oh you think Vecna should have scum-read worcej/yav, not town-read them. I disagree.

If there's 2 claims on your items and you're the third... You town read them?

[Durga]

@damo you know scum often busses right..? You can't clear people because they voted for squibs lmao. Not everyone on that wagon is likely to be town. Possible, but not likely. Don't you dare clear worcej, Rd, and Vecna based off the actions you listed. They are not indicative of alignment

I'll give some examples of possible bussing

Day 1

Durga ND
ghug ND
Squigs Durga
Vecna ghug

Day 2

Vecna Yav
Durga ND (briefly near EOD)

Currently

ND Durga
Vecna Durga
Durga Vecna
ghug Vecna

... What.

[y2kjbk]

i never said vecna's theories make sense, but i don't see his armor reveal and town-reading yav/worcej as scummy, i see it as very townie.

[y2kjbk]

drop the words "as scumm" in my above post. vecna is townie for town-reading the retracted armor claims.

[Vecna]

Yo Y2k, im giving this one more shot. Remember how you said last game you overthink stuff, and you read too much into everything, and ignore the easy obvscum as a result? I have the same shit. Im also over-suspicious to a fault and get stuck in that tunnel.

Lets talk reasonably now. Only bozo had died at this point. For scum-brainbomb to be able to do what he did, the following must ALL be true:

-Bozo had the cop item

-Scum must have had the thief and stole the cop item from bozo (literally the only bway brainbomb doesnt get INSTA cc'd after MF flips scum)

-Ghug is scum with Brainbomb (because item thief stealing the copkit means Rd is telling the truth, meaning the item theft is a confirmed lie)

-Brainbomb came up with this plan on the spot in under 7 minutes and decided to fakeclaim a guilty.

-Brainbomb did not only come up with the plan on the spot, but he could also look into the future, predicted he was gonna steal the cop-kit, and softed that noone should let anyone claim that item just before EON.


Can you just stop it already? Brainbomb is obv-town here. Youre being ridiculous.

[Durga]

drop the words "as scumm" in my above post. vecna is townie for town-reading the retracted armor claims.

Why. Especially given that one of those retractions might be because they lost their armour to Rd.

[Durga]

Yeah brainbomb is not scum, just really bad at this

[damo666]

Rivera is almost clear to me. I'm still not sure about Durga, maybe it's Durga-ND insulting each other game. ghug - Durga sounds possible too. If people continues Durga wagon I will vote her.again. I'm good with either wagon. Vecna claimed armour and told us he still has it. I want to believe him here, mafia could claim something less risky - especially after rivera claimed an armour sticked on him. Hmmm, maybe a town fakeclaims here to catch a scum gambler?

Yav it can't be ghug-Durga if rdrivera truthful about armour getting stuck to him.

No it can be. Nothing proves ghug was right about stolen head. Durga has proven herself as cannon holder. However this doesn't mean she's 100% town.
I will vote for her now.
##vote Durga

If ghug had armour mighty risk claiming lost head. How could he know bith head and thief not in play given Durga had cannon? Only if MF and Squigs had both. Then this requires dead town to almost certainly have Foam Hammer, repair kit and slime. How would Squigs have known to claim Foam Hammer? No, IF rdrivera telling the truth about armour ghug cannot have armour therefore it cannot be ghug Durga.

[Durga]

The one thing that kinda irks me about Rd is that I said he does a good job of buddying me so I can't read him and then all of a sudden I'm in his scum reads lmao. I don't know how to take that

[Durga]

@vecna hey babe, why are you voting me? I don't mind because you're scum but tell me your reasoning

[damo666]

Durga - if your friend ND is town who is Vecna's scumpartner? Apologies if you've already said and I missed but if so could you repeat please.

[Durga]

Durga - if your friend ND is town who is Vecna's scumpartner? Apologies if you've already said and I missed but if so could you repeat please.

Yavu. I already said.

[y2kjbk]

Could I really have put that much misplaced trust in brainbomb’s talent for this game?

[rdrivera2005]

The one thing that kinda irks me about Rd is that I said he does a good job of buddying me so I can't read him and then all of a sudden I'm in his scum reads lmao. I don't know how to take that

How are you all of a sudden on my scumreads? I am voting ND and was voting Vecna and Yav before and can't see a vote outside this (or me) today.
I just pointed that from all theories around, you being scum with ND isn't impossible and honestly, you clearing ND for that fake attack on you stroke me as really odd. Not even ND would really think you were conceding, that's bullshit and you should know it.

[Durga]

Could I really have put that much misplaced trust in brainbomb’s talent for this game?

Yes. But he's also still town.

[Vecna]

I think Vecna is scum. I think he waited last to claim to see if Rd will say he had his armour, and to see if anyone else would claim the second armour. Given his shit "theory" there was no reason for him to wait until everyone else had claimed. Vecna lost his armour to Rd, and therefore had to be the last one to claim.

If Rdrivera is telling the truth, scum knew with 99% certainty that the sticky was still out there.

It couldnt be on the persons they nightkilled because theyd have lost an item. It wasnt squigs. Tom claimed pp before he died. It couldve only been on Chaqa.

You might not think the world of me. Just realize that I wouldve stopped my scumteam from roleblocking. Any scumteam that actually was throwing out random roleblocks when they are certain the sticky is still out there is full of dumbshits.

People that think my theory is bad.....well, youre probably just not getting it.

[Durga]

The one thing that kinda irks me about Rd is that I said he does a good job of buddying me so I can't read him and then all of a sudden I'm in his scum reads lmao. I don't know how to take that

How are you all of a sudden on my scumreads? I am voting ND and was voting Vecna and Yav before and can't see a vote outside this (or me) today.
I just pointed that from all theories around, you being scum with ND isn't impossible and honestly, you clearing ND for that fake attack on you stroke me as really odd. Not even ND would really think you were conceding, that's bullshit and you should know it.

You mentioned yavu durga ghug or something. It felt like he really believed me (ND), and that's why I'm clearing him. He can't believe me if he's scum. But I genuinely think people with half a brain, like ND, and maybe someone else not in this game but related to it, would believe something like that.

[Durga]

I think Vecna is scum. I think he waited last to claim to see if Rd will say he had his armour, and to see if anyone else would claim the second armour. Given his shit "theory" there was no reason for him to wait until everyone else had claimed. Vecna lost his armour to Rd, and therefore had to be the last one to claim.

If Rdrivera is telling the truth, scum knew with 99% certainty that the sticky was still out there.

It couldnt be on the persons they nightkilled because theyd have lost an item. It wasnt squigs. Tom claimed pp before he died. It couldve only been on Chaqa.

You might not think the world of me. Just realize that I wouldve stopped my scumteam from roleblocking. Any scumteam that actually was throwing out random roleblocks when they are certain the sticky is still out there is full of dumbshits.

People that think my theory is bad.....well, youre probably just not getting it.

Uhhh why are you voting me and not Rd then? Also sounds like something you've very heavily considered, as scum.