Tiny Hunt I Game Thread

[DoubtingThomas]

DT are you village or witch?

200% villa, brother

wbu?

[DoubtingThomas]

I go now,
But I will come back tomorrow. And damo, I didn't like this vigilante-triggering plan. It wants us to mislynch twice. I won't activate vig that early.

how do u know if we mislynched ND already?

[damo666]

I don't know if this is significant but the only people on ND that weren't lumping Vecna are Bo_ Y2K and Ezio.

I like Ezio's reasoning late day 1 so to get the ball rolling

##VOTE Y2K

i didnt lump at all so this is false

It's not false. You didn't lump at all so you didn't lump Vecna.

[damo666]

DT are you village or witch?

200% villa, brother

wbu?

Only 100% village, so only half your claim!

[DoubtingThomas]

I don't know if this is significant but the only people on ND that weren't lumping Vecna are Bo_ Y2K and Ezio.

I like Ezio's reasoning late day 1 so to get the ball rolling

##VOTE Y2K

i didnt lump at all so this is false

It's not false. You didn't lump at all so you didn't lump Vecna.

??? so you should've included me in people who didn't lump vecna?

i voted ND and didnt lump vecna because (evidently) i didnt lump at all

so it's false, right? am i misunderstanding something

[Squigs44]

-All actions that are not explicitly worded as optional are not optional.

##Call GM: Is Witches NK optional?

This would townclear Bozo if it isn't optional.

[DoubtingThomas]

-All actions that are not explicitly worded as optional are not optional.

##Call GM: Is Witches NK optional?

This would townclear Bozo if it isn't optional.

how does it town clear him (reading page 23 right now so might not have gotten there)

[DoubtingThomas]

My reads based on vibes

Town

Bo-
Vecna
DT
Rdr
Squiggs

Null/Townlean

Yav
Y2K

Null

ND

Null/Scum

Worcej
Bozo
Jamie
Ezio

##VOTE damo666. This post is the basis for my vote, not an OMGUS for his unexplained vote. This post alone providing vibe reads in the middle of D1 wouldn't be scummy if it was followed up with him challenging his reads and clarifying why his vibes were what they were as EOD approached. Instead, this post seems to serve as just weak grounds to justify his vote switching among his viby scum reads. That's scum play, working to ensure you can justify your actions, which is what I think damo was focused on D1, rather than actually trying to feel out these supposed vibes he had.

i agree damo's post isn't spectacular. i dont know if him just posting that and perhaps not showing a complete progression off of that single post in D1 make him scummy.

y2k, very weird reason to vote here. this kind of post is weirder than, 'i got bad vibes' or 'i read him scum' or 'he didnt know the eod time'

[DoubtingThomas]

I am torn with the Judge atm...

I am definitely an odds person and letting them have the choice to lynch is statistically better than the group doing it, but at the same time we relinquish choice... I look at the role to be a light vigilante though so the argument to have them make the choice isn't totally bad, but again do we give up our choice to do so?

really odd worcej is consistently and continuously obsessed with the Judge...

[DoubtingThomas]

It's incredibly scummy to want to rely on the judge and consequently not have to explain who you want to lynch. If we're really in a bind for some reason later in the day, maybe it can be considered, but it's stupid and scummy to do it now.

i kinda agree w this.

i domt know if it's extremely scummy, but i dont see too many town motive behind it?

like judge for all we know can get it wrong too so trying to convince the judge to vote almost looks like also denying the vigi's ability to use his skill after two lynches.

[DoubtingThomas]

guys, just a heads up. i prob wont be here at EoD (if I am, it will be at mobile so the most i could prob do is switch my vote)

so hoping to get some work done before then... sorry for not participating too much this day phase!!

[Squigs44]

Looking back at the ND train, I think Vecna and Bo could be scummy if Ezio is scum as well. If Bozo is towncleared, then his townread of damo and his scumread of Bo/Ezio might be able to persuade me to switch to Bo (or Ezio if not Bo)

@Bozo - can you summarize your scumread on Bo? I'll do some of my own digging on Bo as well.

[DoubtingThomas]

It's incredibly scummy to want to rely on the judge and consequently not have to explain who you want to lynch. If we're really in a bind for some reason later in the day, maybe it can be considered, but it's stupid and scummy to do it now.

damo, why am I your preference for the lynch? Explain your vibes.

How is it scummy to consider it? I would argue that saying it is bad is even MORE scummy because it takes away any influence the scum could have on the lynch and puts it into town hands. Isn’t that actually more desired because we know the kill is a townie pulling it off?

hmm while i dont agree with the logic (like just cuz townie's doing the kill, doesnt make the kill right, you know? and I also think letting vigi have his abilitiey is really important) i think the post itself is genuine and gives me townie vibes

[rdrivera2005]

-All actions that are not explicitly worded as optional are not optional.

##Call GM: Is Witches NK optional?

This would townclear Bozo if it isn't optional.

I have never seen a Mafia withhold the NK to try to clear someone, so unless someone counter claim the save I assume Bozo is telling the truth. And this questioning now on the public thread look a lot like someone trying to seems engaged on the game but doiing nothing.
At this point I am fine with lynching Squigs, Jamiet and Ezio. I have some doubts about Damo, but he have some posts that looks a lot towny to me.

##vote Squigs for now.

[DoubtingThomas]

damo, do you suspect Vecna or are you trying to get others to suspect Vecna?

odd post???

[DoubtingThomas]

wow no night kill? that's not what i expected...

the only read I am comfortable saying with confidence is Bo. His counter case against my case against Ezio was pretty good. I don't think he was friending Ezio, and his post had a very townie tone. More looked like he genuinely read Ezio hard town and pointed out the discomfort in the formation of the Ezio wagon that followed after my vote.

I will say Bo is town. I just wish people like Bo and Ezio explain what's scummy/townie about the people they see. just saying i read them that is not a convincing case for me and makes me want to pressure them

Did bo_sox change your opinion of Ezio?

yes. i thougth that was pretty clear from my multiple posts mentioning that post by bo

[Squigs44]

Looking at a Bo iso, the main takeaway that I get is that he has been tearing other people down. Pretty much everything he has done is to call someone else stupid. Even his voting or scumreads are based off of 'They did something dumb, let's vote them'.
This could just be his personality coming through into the game. Or it could be scum trying to stifle conversation or thought processes. Definitely a strong link between Bo and Ezio, so I could see them being a scum team. Especially Ezio's post about how he was going to townread Bo the rest of the game no matter what. Ezio seems to come up with excuses for everything. Still not sure they are my top scumreads though. I still like damo/worcej over bo/ezio.

[DoubtingThomas]

The real reason why being suspicious of me is somewhat silly; Scum would never want to lump themselves, because then when they continue to not die to the nightkill, and look very suspicious.

i am not sure if i agree with this.

what if the lumped 'townie' (if they are) are just voting towns all the time (not scums) and scums believe the lumped person's poor voting habits r worth to let them live for, plus the added bonus of extra suspicion they get for not getting nk'd?

???

[Jamiet99uk]

Two observations

1. Ezio has been in hiding since I exposed his scumslip.
2. Damo666 voting people for "joke" reasons, well into D2, is stinky.

[DoubtingThomas]

Specifically that was to damo for his list, but also at Thomas who wants us to explain everything we're thinking and expecting you guys to think.

i only want you to explain your reads, or at least dont be a bitch when u get called out scummy for it

no need to be sarcastically beating the wrong bush