MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[yavuzovic]

5.55am in my part of the world now! Thinking about the SK comments, with the count being 18-4 and knowing he can't be NK, SK will at first try to lynch or get town killed. This bias is multiplied by the existence of these stones. So any idea the SK was targeting mafia in EOD1 I dismiss.
So, assuming the SK was targeting Town, I like the idea that SK was not involved in the EOD movements, and that instead it was scum moving in such ways to protect one of their own. That says to me one of the leading wagons was definitely scum.

Please BismarckAlive, please please please give us a reason before going to lurk again. At least we could know you're busy.

[yavuzovic]

Yav, stop +1ing.

Why? I thought you dealt with that.

[flash2015]

Yav, stop +1ing.

I really had an urge to +1 this...

[worcej]

Dargorygel, Ezio is dead. It's a bit redundant giving your read on him.

Especially since he wasn't in the 'towniest' group...

[ghug]

Dargorygel, Ezio is dead. It's a bit redundant giving your read on him.

Especially since he wasn't in the 'towniest' group...

Can you guys stop making my scumreads look good with these moronic criticisms? He kissed him after himself. There is no towniest group. There's a separate SK listing under the word "Towniest".

How do you fucking get off outing yourself as doctor day one and then immediately dropping your activity to completelyfuckinguseless level?

[brainbomb]

Bye guys

I think claiming was right here. Disappointing to be dying already tho.

Lynch bo, he stopped debating me since im the nk.

"You cant debate the dead"
-Bo M33

'Dead people cant make cases on you'
-HR (some game he was scum)

*waves*

[ghug]

Brain, I appreciate you trying to draw the nightkill. Very noble. Sadly, it would suck for everyone except the SK, so I'd rather you not convince the mafia it's a good call for them.

[Jamiet99uk]

What's this self-indulgent crap?

[worcej]

Can you guys stop making my scumreads look good with these moronic criticisms? He kissed him after himself. There is no towniest group. There's a separate SK listing under the word "Towniest".

How do you fucking get off outing yourself as doctor day one and then immediately dropping your activity to completelyfuckinguseless level?

By enjoying the fact that my actions are trolling you enough into stupid rage.

Why don't you go and manage your GB tournament well enough and unlock my damn Germany game instead of being a complete d-bag towards me because I slipped on D1?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Worcej can you please stop talking about Diplomacy in here? It's really not the place.

[yavuzovic]

@Worcej can you please stop talking about Diplomacy in here? It's really not the place.

Literally no he ever didn't. He mentioned another thread (thread was about diplomacy)

[ghug]

Can you guys stop making my scumreads look good with these moronic criticisms? He kissed him after himself. There is no towniest group. There's a separate SK listing under the word "Towniest".

How do you fucking get off outing yourself as doctor day one and then immediately dropping your activity to completelyfuckinguseless level?

By enjoying the fact that my actions are trolling you enough into stupid rage.

Why don't you go and manage your GB tournament well enough and unlock my damn Germany game instead of being a complete d-bag towards me because I slipped on D1?

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[worcej]

@Worcej can you please stop talking about Diplomacy in here? It's really not the place.

This was the one and only comment I made

I am just trying to make one point - ghug has been a dick to me since I slipped and I am growing tired of it.

Also, it's fucking N1. We've gained nothing substantial since Ezio's death so all we are doing is shouting at each other and trying to convince people that X is scum and Y is town. Until we see something definitive, it's just noise.

[ghug]

Lotsa people reading this thread and not saying anything...

[Foxcastle]

BismarckAlive: Lurking is shirking, and I'm usually down for lynch-a-lurk.

Bo_sox48: I tend to think Town, in no small part for how he reacted at the very last minute to his wagon almost winning.

Bozo: Always a hard one to read for me, he focuses on mechanics a lot. I think he has made a few good posts. He was strongly scumreading Ezio, which makes me wonder about the others on that wagon (Xorxes, Ghugh, Squigs), and whether we think there were no scum who were eager to get rid of Ezio.

Brainbomb: Town (or else will be exposed by the real Gamora).

ChippeRock: Town, his townslips have been convincing to me.

Damo666: Lean Town.

Dargorygel: Lean scum, would lynch again. (I don't give his swan song as much credit as Bo's because it came with time that it might have given some people enough doubt to move off him.)

DoubtingThomas: Lean Town.

Flash2015: Lean Scum, a quick skim of his ISO does not give me confidence he is helping town. (Could be SK.)

Ghug: Lean Town (Could be SK.)

Hellenic Riot: Looks pretty towny, but that is greatly assisted by his having not been around for nearly the whole first day. He's a smart player and if he was following along, it would be easy to show up last minute and look good if he'd been prepping for it.

Jamiet: Lean Town, I guess. Deserves a closer look, as usual.

ND: Lean scum. I recall that he's usually reticent, but I don't recall him being so unwilling to provide

Rdrivera: I have this theory that when Rdrivera is getting a lot of pressure for what looks like no reason (to me), he's town, and when he's not (like now), he's scum. He looks pretty townie. But I admired how townie he looked last game, too. (Could be SK.)

Snowy: Lean scum, this looks like a different Snowy than I've seen in past games, and I'd think it's a good chance it's scummy.

Squigs: Probably Town

Vecna: Probably Town.

Worcej: Town (unless exposed by doc counterclaim)

Xorxes: Probably Town.

Y2K: Unsure. I was put off by his jumping around a lot with his vote, but I think that's more town indicative in general. Is he always this confident?

Yavuz: Always a little hard to read. Some of his earlier play made me think scum, but some of his later posts look more townie, I think. It's hard to say, and the problem with Yavuz is that I'm always curious to see how he flips, and my curiosity is not much of an indicator of his alignment.

[ND]

Okay, so just a back recap of what I am thinking as we go into D2. I just don’t have time right now to do an expanded read summary for each, but this is what I am thinking.

Scum
Jamie99uk
Foxcastle
Bozotheclown
Xorxes
Yavuzovic
I could see a Bismark or DoubtingThomas in this if I am wrong about something else. Different reasons for including them and conflicted on it.
Null Tier (these are nulls for various reasons)
Dargorygel
Bo_Sox
Damo666
Snowy801
Hellenic Riot
Ghug
Slight to Town Tier:
Flash2015
Rdrivera2005
Vecna
Chippierock
Y2kjbk
Brainbomb
Worcej


I would have done more with this, but it’s just been busy the past day.

[brainbomb]

A clear is a clear ghug.

And if im alive item inventor will just feed me all day.

Any amatuer scum knows you kill clears like wack-a-moles or reap what you sow.

Im not great at mafia but if you leave me alive long enough you of all people know ill start hitting entire scumteams each day until my opinions take root and I hit a few. Id settle for one
But scum knows im unlynchable and will be a hotbed for items.

[brainbomb]

If bo is scum hes the one doing the kill on me to get the stone. That way if he gets lynched sk can vote him and get the stome activated. Scum wants extra kills.

Simple

[yavuzovic]

A clear is a clear ghug.

And if im alive item inventor will just feed me all day.

Any amatuer scum knows you kill clears like wack-a-moles or reap what you sow.

Im not great at mafia but if you leave me alive long enough you of all people know ill start hitting entire scumteams each day until my opinions take root and I hit a few. Id settle for one
But scum knows im unlynchable and will be a hotbed for items.

Are you trying to attract nightkills? Why should town Gamora fo this. When I start to townread you you start being scum again.

[xorxes]

Not much time for a full EON reads list, and I don't have any strong scumreads yet anyway.

clears: brain, worcej
townish: flash, bozo, Fox, Chip, yavu, dargo, bo, squigs, rivera and I'll give ghug the benefit of the doubt for now.
scummish: Jamiet, ND, y2k
null: everyone else.

SK could be one of the townish ones as well, rivera is a good candidate based on the vote.