MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[Jamiet99uk]

That includes the four numbers I consider to be most likely to be our enemies.

@jamie: is "3 9 11 14" some agreed mafia QT code for "Brain, Fox, Peter, Teacher" being your enemies? Are these four the biggest enemies of you and mafia winning the game?

Lol such a cryptic code.
You are a genius Peter.

[teacher2]

@Peter - Vecna's point is sound, and I've been too focused on your EoD. Can you talk about a few people other than Brain, Vecna, or me?

I'd love to. At the moment I have read upto this message from you. I need to continue reading and by tomorrow before EoD2 I hope to have ISOed most people and done some read list. Then I will be ready for this widened discussion.

The problem Peter is that I need to sort you better before EoD. I liked my case and my gut on you at end of day, but you havent offered anything to back up that gut ever since.

[teacher2]

Apparently he also thought Teacher might be scum given the visit

I had a different reaction to his visit. Two games ago, with Dr as scum, I was killed N2. Last game, with Dr as scum, I was attempted to be killed N1. I think Dr respects me, and so was using his visit as a pure cop -- either he would find scum, and so continue to townread me, or he would find town and then play up the fears that others have expressed to lead to a lynch. But I may be too close to the situation.

[brainbomb]

I am only good at town after day 3 or 4. Before that people just want me dead always.

My best games are probably m21, m22
Id say I played well in the vdip mini game.

Otherwise I am definetely not what I used to be as far as skills. I just dont like explaining my thought processes to people. And really ive been very turned off by people on multiple sites acting like I had brain damage. Its not necessary to waste my effort trying to impress people with brilliant ideas.

Im kind of surprised that my wagon is so small. I expected today to be another vitriol filled slug fest where I had every player hounding me with questions. Its nice to see some people have just decided to ignore me and focus on their reads.

[brainbomb]

Give me data to analyze and im solid

[teacher2]

he probably avoided voting for players he felt were more likely to be mafia.

FWIW, he definitely pushed heavily against Peter's wagon before getting on, and looked to quickly get off. I think this was a scumread of DrCJG's, which is part of why I want to sort him more.

[teacher2]

Brain, were your RBed? And if not, what do you make of the fact that scum havent claimed RB?

[bozotheclown]

My point was simply that it couldve been any number of things, yet you choose to push one that is just as (un)likely as any other type of stuff you can attach to it.

But I guess you just wanna push the rhethoric that were all incapable and not able to get anywhere near a wagon on scum.

And yes, my post was meant to outline I think its very possible youre trying to defend a fellow scum member.

peter was one of my top scum reads, even though I did not find his initial comment about brainbomb and Jamie unreasonable, I found it suspicious that he backed off of that comment completely in response to teacher questioning him. Although his wagon growing as large is it did fairly quickly leads me to believe scum were willing to jump on his wagon, I am not clearing him based on that because I know there are other explanations.

[brainbomb]

Vote Count
Thedipplayer (5): DrCJG, teacher2, bozotheclown, worcej, peterlund
Brainbomb (4): Jamiet99uk, yavuzovic, thedipplayer, flash2015
Peterlund (4): Vecna, RagingIke297, damo666, BismarkAlive
Foxcastle (1): rdrivera2005
DemonRHK (1): DoubtingThomas
Worcej (1): Foxcastle
yavuzovic(1): brainbomb
End-votes (2/18): flash2015 and yavuzovic

Non-Votes: DemonRHK

There are 27 minutes left in the phase

Thedipplayer is set to be lynched!

Notes
1.
DrCgjc doesnt know if dipplayer is town. But clearly assumed he was.
Diplayer is lynched as an 8 wagon ultimately.

Teacher2 - primary foes peterlund and dipplayer day 1. Teacher argues with ne at one point.
I missed this
"Do you not believe in RVS? I mean, I dont write it off entirely, but from your several comments it seems like you take it at full weight?"

It doesnt take 3 people to RVS. It takes 1. When someone becomes a 3 wagon 2 pages into a game, thats called exhibit A.

Dr hadnt posted enough to ping scum as their ally as he hit 3.

2. Why are people lynching brainbomb voters if they want brainbomb to die? Seems counter intuitive.

3. What is going on with rdrivera there? A vanity wagon? And how did Bismark go all day today without any actual effort yet?

##Vote Bismark

[brainbomb]

Bismarks only post today

Day 2, Page 43 : g=37&part=Day%202&user=BismarckAlive
BismarckAlive
Day-2 40:37
page 43 Just a current situation post (facts):

Town Left: 11
Mafia Left: 3
Serial Killer: Alive

So, if we lynch someone, the probability of lynching someone we do want dead is: 4/15 or 26.7%. This deteriorated after 3 deaths because the original ratio (5/18 or 27.8%) was affected by the loss of two townspeople to the one mafia so far. This is just mathematical fact.

Since Ninja and SK are still alive, then those two did the killing last night. Assuming Roleblocker tried blocking someone, then we don't know who was blocked yet (Brain's claim was debunked). I also assume Veteran and JOAT did not do anything N1.

Is the underlined role fishing? Who can even actually answer those questions. I struggle to see why town would ask that?

The bolded part to me seems a bit vacuos and effortless. He tells us odds, then disappears and offers nothing else.

Why is he sharing these facts with us in the first place lol?

[teacher2]

@Yav - You didnt reply to my response to your case overnight. You didnt respond to my question in the reactions post (why your night death would be my fault?). You didnt respond to the SK case, though that was crackpot. You basically havent given anything more to sort you today.

[teacher2]

.....snip VCA.....
It doesnt take 3 people to RVS. It takes 1. When someone becomes a 3 wagon 2 pages into a game, thats called exhibit A.

I always try to wagon in RVS. It tends to get out of RVS faster. Plus, as Dr's vote of me (before my vote on him) implied with "preemptively", he knew I would vote him first no matter what, just for yuks.

3. What is going on with rdrivera there? A vanity wagon?

Or anywhere, really. Im cutting slack because its the weekend, but certainly going to be expecting something Monday.

[Foxcastle]

Hey, Teacher... Why do you think DrCJG chatted at/with you so much? You were pretty friendly! And then townread you. And then visited you to check your alignment...

[Foxcastle]

Brain, are you still claiming you were roleblocked?

[damo666]

Because he simply wants to fulfil his obligation to post?

[damo666]

My 955 post refers to Brain's questioning of Bismarck's post

[teacher2]

Hey, Teacher... Why do you think DrCJG chatted at/with you so much? You were pretty friendly! And then townread you. And then visited you to check your alignment...

Third most active player generally, to Brain and Jamie and they were a bit bothered. Plus, while he has killed me every game, we do enjoy each other. So I think its just two lawyers bullshitting. As for the visit, I explained my view. But the other possibility is that he did scumread me/buy into Peter's case. From how hard he was pushing against Peter though, I think he thought Peter was scum (and therefore I was town) and embraced Peter's case to give himself the flexibility to come after me today.

[Foxcastle]

The minimum post obligation is two times... DrCJG mentioned Teacher 25!

[teacher2]

The minimum post obligation is two times... DrCJG mentioned Teacher 25!

And I mentioned Brain 42. Whats your point?

[brainbomb]

I was actually roleblocked but its not like anyone would ever buy it. So its rather dumb to ask me. Does a single person believe me? No.

Scum knows its real. The gms know its real. I cant copy paste the real one lol