MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE PETERLUND

[DemonRHK]

RIP teach, you played very well.

##Vote Snowy

I'll go wire to wire on this another day phase. If you don't think he was scum saved line yourselves up next.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE SNOWY

[peterlund]

##VOTE PETERLUND

I not a vote without explanation/motivation from Fox. Not even a simple accusation. Fox, what is up with you?

Anyhow, I need to work tomorrow. So I need to goto bed in 20 min before I log off.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE PETERLUND

I not a vote without explanation/motivation from Fox. Not even a simple accusation. Fox, what is up with you?

Anyhow, I need to work tomorrow. So I need to goto bed in 20 min before I log off.

Fox's scumread of you is explained in Foxcastle's EoN list of scumreads on Page 58.

[peterlund]

Peterlund—Scum. He was bussing Ike, then voted for Bozo to save his scummate with 1 minute to go, then 15 minutes later is saying how suspicious the PR claim was. Also of interest, he says (p.30) " He did not even say "town PR", just "PR"." It seems to me that town don't think of the Mafia power roles as actual PRs... Is Peter scumslipping here because he's got to keep in mind who the Godfather and Hooker are? And I thought his Day 2 seemed scummy with a lot of explaining things and adding context and reactions and speculation without a lot of conclusion...

D1 I voted Bozo at the end to make sure we got more information from the lynch. If I had not switched we could have ended up in a tie in case someone switched from Bozo to Ike and I was not going to let that happen. Simple as that.

Ike only claiming "PR" could of course mean any PR either on the town or the scum side. That was what was disturbing me, that he did not even claim "town PR".

When it comes to my theory why Ike was not RBed and why Balki could claim RBed without a CC, you need to read up on http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... d2-42&g=36.

Please come up with a better explanation that I have there after I switched from Ike to Balki at Day-2 36:09, page 38 before you rule out my ideas with "speculation without a lot of conclusion..."

[Foxcastle]

Yeah, my point is that townies don't think of the mafia team as "PRs". You're thinking like scum, and that's why I'm voting you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ike only claiming "PR" could of course mean any PR either on the town or the scum side. That was what was disturbing me, that he did not even claim "town PR".

Peter, do you honestly think there's a possibility Ike meant to say "please don't lynch me, I'm an important Mafia PR!"

No of course not.

[Foxcastle]

it strikes me as overly defensive to complain about me lobbing a vote you're way with 48 hours to go, also.

[peterlund]

Yeah, my point is that townies don't think of the mafia team as "PRs". You're thinking like scum, and that's why I'm voting you.

I think it is very obvious which roles that are PRs for anyone that has played this game a couple of times. You are manufacturing things here. Manufacturing things is what scum do.

[Foxcastle]

<Shrug> You gonna back that up with a vote?

[Jamiet99uk]

Gosh Peter is flailing here.

[dargorygel]

RIP teacher. And looks like the bot is refusing to accept teacher's death. The bot likes teacher.

Once again... no night death for Ike. And no counter claim(s.)
I think the mafia doesn't believe him. Which makes me not believe him. I am thinking he is VT who was scrambling for his life when he claimed.

I have a lot of reading to catch up on.

The snowy/Jamie thing at the EoD seems more like scrambling confused townies than scum. I will read it again, but it doesn't seem to me that they were being protected by anyone. I am confused by Jamie's switch, though. But I admit it is probably because I have only read it once, and then found others concerned by it.

Regarding our status... on the one hand, we haven't nabbed any scum. On the other hand, our PRs are all alive. And mostly not even claimed.

On the other other hand, our PR's have not been saved anyone, caught anyone, or given Ezio a gun.

Speaking of which... Ezio? Why so silent?

[dargorygel]

@Balki. I just spent ten minutes looking at your weird typing extravaganza looking for some code or message. Then I wondered instead of you have a cat.

[Tom Bombadil]

GM Cleanup:

teacher2 has died. He was Elektra King a VANILLA TOWN.

[TrPrado]

I don’t think the original post was all that scummy and the both of you I assumed would know better than to think it is, but peter really isn’t responding very well to pressure.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Balki. I just spent ten minutes looking at your weird typing extravaganza looking for some code or message. Then I wondered instead of you have a cat.

Balki has done that twice. What do you think he is up to?

[ghug]

He's trolling.

[bo_sox48]

##VOTE peterlund

Flail away.

[rdrivera2005]

RIP Teacher, you played well and was too obviously town for your own safety.

I was re-reading a bit and unfortunately I have to agree that probably both Snowy and Balki are town. I still fail to understand the motivation to a Stressed push like that, but I also fail to see a scum motivation and Teacher being killed is too convenient, like scum trying to frame Balki. I still think Jamiet is scum.

And this Peterlund wagon is totally bullshit. Peter always play like this as town and even considering he is mostly wrong I can't see him being scum.