MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[yavuzovic]

Does bo avoid messaging on purpose? We don't hammer for him.

[Jamiet99uk]

Well, Bo has been online in the last day.

[peterlund]

Well, Bo has been online in the last day.

Bo has probably read the thread without logging in. There are two ways to do this.
1) log off webdip and read the thread as guest
2) read the thread only via the bot

Both ways you will not be visible on webdip...

[Jamiet99uk]

Well, Bo has been online in the last day.

Bo has probably read the thread without logging in. There are two ways to do this.
1) log off webdip and read the thread as guest
2) read the thread only via the bot

Both ways you will not be visible on webdip...

I said he *has* been online. So he could have read the thread whilst logged in anyway.

@Bo_Sox: Come out and respond to Peter's claim of a guilty scan on you, please.

[peterlund]

Apparently bo prefer not to say anything. Let's save 24 h by ##end ing while there still is 24h+ remaining on this one...

[Jamiet99uk]

Actually Peter, before we do that, would you be willing to explain how you decided who you were going to scan?

[TrPrado]

Your reveal was less than 24 hours ago. There’s a chance he hasn’t seen it.

[snowy801]

It really is the worst feeling when a cop just comes out guilty on you
but nobody likes my amazing set ups where the truth is ambiguous and you actually have to do some thinking
##vote bo

also, I am absolutely confident Ike is not the doctor

[peterlund]

Actually Peter, before we do that, would you be willing to explain how you decided who you were going to scan?

I have no problem with that.

N1 I decided to scan Teacher2, since he gave me the appearance of being a Mafia Pro, that we had no meta on. If he would have been scum, a scan would be crucial.

N2 I decided to scan ghug since it is impossible to tell just by meta if he is town or town. Thinking back now I could have waited a bit with this scan, since if ghug is town, he is NKed rather early.

N3 I decided to scan Bo since his 2nd post was so "off". Something was really not right about him. And I hit gold this 3rd time. The question was how and when to indicate this to town. I started with putting him on second place on my scum read list thinking that if I was NKed and flipped COP, people would see and recognize this sudden change, but since town was is such bad shape I changed my mind and thought that I needed to claim instead.

N4 I was first planning to scan Ezio, but since Bo (who I knew was scum) was suggesting to lynch Ezio next day, I changed my scan target for the "undercover" darg instead who had been so hedgy in my opinion, really being overly careful about everything that he said and when he said it.

[Jamiet99uk]

I can buy that as cop thinking. Thanks Peter.

[Jamiet99uk]

also, I am absolutely confident Ike is not the doctor

Absolutely 100% certain?

[Jamiet99uk]

@RagingIke: What was the purpose of your list, where you asked people to rate how strongly they believed or disbelieved your claim? What can you draw from the results?

[RagingIke297]

@RagingIke: What was the purpose of your list, where you asked people to rate how strongly they believed or disbelieved your claim? What can you draw from the results?

Not everyone voted, but I assumed that scum would spread out. I figured cop would claim either today or tomorrow and thought it would be another data point for us to use in the future. RHK has been shown to be town and he believed my claim but he was the only one. RHK also said that he was going to continue to vote snowy until either snowy died or RHK himself did. Seems like scum is still holding out to try to get me lynched and possibly keep saving snowy

[dargorygel]

I was not counter claiming.
And actually, DON'T counter claim. Peter's lies will be clear soon enough. The timing of Peter's scam, after no revelations through the game show that this is a QT planned event.

Ok, let´s assume for a moment you are town. I am pretty sure in this case you will have given some thought about this. So could you answer some questions:
What motivation do you think scum Peter would have to claim this at EON?
Why do you think he choosed you and BO as his guilty reads?

The thoughts I have had about it have been since Peter claimed a scan. Since then, yes... I have done some thinking.
I think the mafia qt is understandably confident. We have not caught any of them. They are to the point where they can misslynch three more times, and win a complete sweep. And yet the cop is still out there (and the doc, really.) So if they do THIS, they can get a counter claim, and find the real cop and make that exchange. Peter for the cop.

As far as why bo and I... I already indicated that we have been scumread by him. It makes sense for him to choose us. Maybe he thought I was the cop, per my mid range activity level... and hoped for a screaming counter claim.

Instead, I urge the cop to NOT claim. Don't make that trade.

I'll be voting now for peter... because I know he is lying. He is no longer, to me, an uncc'd cop. He's a false-claiming uncc'ed cop. And that makes him enough to vote for.
##VOTE PETER

[Jamiet99uk]

Dargorygel you voted for Peter already. Yet now you are trying to present your vote for Peter as something you have just decided on.

Sketchy.

[RagingIke297]

I was not counter claiming.
And actually, DON'T counter claim. Peter's lies will be clear soon enough. The timing of Peter's scam, after no revelations through the game show that this is a QT planned event.

Ok, let´s assume for a moment you are town. I am pretty sure in this case you will have given some thought about this. So could you answer some questions:
What motivation do you think scum Peter would have to claim this at EON?
Why do you think he choosed you and BO as his guilty reads?

The thoughts I have had about it have been since Peter claimed a scan. Since then, yes... I have done some thinking.
I think the mafia qt is understandably confident. We have not caught any of them. They are to the point where they can misslynch three more times, and win a complete sweep. And yet the cop is still out there (and the doc, really.) So if they do THIS, they can get a counter claim, and find the real cop and make that exchange. Peter for the cop.

As far as why bo and I... I already indicated that we have been scumread by him. It makes sense for him to choose us. Maybe he thought I was the cop, per my mid range activity level... and hoped for a screaming counter claim.

Instead, I urge the cop to NOT claim. Don't make that trade.

I'll be voting now for peter... because I know he is lying. He is no longer, to me, an uncc'd cop. He's a false-claiming uncc'ed cop. And that makes him enough to vote for.
##VOTE PETER

So both Peter and I are both fakeclaiming?

[Jamiet99uk]

Dargorygel's post there just reeks of scum. I'm sure of Peter's claim now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is nothing happening?

Bo_Sox has now had over 24 hours to respond.

##END

[Jamiet99uk]

@RagingIke: How would you feel about Peterlund scanning you tonight?

[Foxcastle]

Nothing is happening because it's a weekend and we don't have a deadline. At this point, I'm not sure end-hammering would save us any time. Maybe if the mafia team agreed to a shorter night phase, but it looks like we're not going to have the votes before that becomes moot.

I'd be interested to hear Bo's response. But I don't think it will change the order of operations: Bo, and then Darg, unless Bo flips town, in which case Peter.