MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[peterlund]

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... ?f=4&t=609

Will it totally fix things? Probably not, but at least you'll only have to wait for the lag to go away once instead of four times.

GREAT! I am quite confident that the improvement will be substantial and we will see this at the next EoD.

[snowy801]

why oh why am I still alive
I'm like 100% confident the vote was in my favor when I made my final post, which was after deadline

[jmo1121109]

Hey everyone,

I notice a number of people posting about forum slowdowns and problems, and peterlund going so far as to suggest leaving the site over it. It might be more useful if everyone could give a detailed bug report and email it to the mod email. I can't fix what I don't know about.

If you see the problem again, please email, with as much detail as possible/screenshots of an error you see.

Cheers

[snowy801]

I think it's Balki tbh

[DemonRHK]

So did I somehow not save snowy or are you just focusing on Balki?

I’m tunneled on Balki. After N2 I’m fairly confident both night have been block and kill, and N2 went unclaimed after the shade on Balki’s claim D2. You will get yours, I’m just not there yet.

[bo_sox48]

http://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/ ... ?f=4&t=609

Will it totally fix things? Probably not, but at least you'll only have to wait for the lag to go away once instead of four times.

GREAT! I am quite confident that the improvement will be substantial and we will see this at the next EoD.

It probably won't be substantial, but it will keep our posts from getting hung up. Besides, this game is supposed to be played as an ongoing chat game, sort of how it is on Discord or Epicmafia or wherever else, so eliminating post review makes sense. Crossposting happens sometimes, and it's not that big of a deal.

[bo_sox48]

bo, thamrick, and balki all made votes at the end that look like snowy-saviors. At least one of them might be explained by the funky site trouble... but not all three.

My vote for Telamor should be recorded as cast at 4:54 central time, and if I counted right it made the vote 7-6 in Telamor's favor. And without a doubt, the purpose of my vote was to save snowy, because snowy is town.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Un-fucking-believable.

I was wrong on Telamor, and I’m sorry about that. RIP

But shame on all of you for letting Balki save that fucker AGAIN.

Interesting phrasing. How did I "save Snowy"? With my vote, or with my compelling arguments for why Snowy must be town? Which arguments do you think were the most potent?

You’ve, two day phases in a row, lobbied at the 11th hour against the lynch. You’ve gotten you way both times, and both were town.

As far as arguements, I love that part where you double down your first fuckup into claiming how all three wagons D2 were town (which as I’ve said, straight numbers is 37%) as to why snowy is town for the next lynch. What’s next? His lack of caring is too towny? All the wagons were town today too?

I can’t fucking wait for this set of mental gymnastics.

(1) Quote the D3 part where I lobbied at the 11th hour against the Snowy lynch. That did not happen.

(2) Quote the part where I claimed all three wagons D2 were town. That did not happen either.

Not sure why you're trying to pin this on me.

[DemonRHK]

Because you’ve been instrumental in both days counterwagons.

The second bit you’re right on. That was bo now that I recall. Sorry for that much.

I’m still convinced you faked the roleblock, that you’ve intended to fully save snowy both days, and that you’re scum.

bo volunteering himself to try to deflect off of you is interesting. Are you and snowy both scum PRs? Did you fake the rb knowing you’d be inno scanned as gf N2, and are hoping the cop reveals you for the full clear?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@DemonRHK,

This is the last thing I said about Snowy:

Can you flesh this out more? Frankly, I remember you said something persuasive about Thamrick, but I forgot what it was. Give me three bullet points on Thamrick.

Also -- wouldn't town Snowy at least want to leave us with his reads or something? Like -- some direction or wisdom so he is not crucified in the GOD thread?

I never advocated for a Telamore lynch. Instead, I said this:

Can someone give me the sweet tl;dr on Telamor

He's weirdly defensive, looks coached, is latched onto Ike in what seems like a bid to build towncred by bussing his scummate while avoiding anything that would taint his reputation by being wrong on a town wagon. He said he was focused on trying to survive when he'd never been under any serious pressure.

Foxy -- these are all fine points, and I think your characterizations are correct.

What I'm missing when I read Telamor is effort to blend in. I don't see that. I see no effort to please. No concern over image. No posting for posting's sake.

Does that concern you about this read?

So please get your facts straight before you go on a fuck-laced accusatory tirade. I'm sure there is something you can think to accuse me of, but you started with the wrong thing.

[bo_sox48]

bo volunteering himself to try to deflect off of you is interesting. Are you and snowy both scum PRs? Did you fake the rb knowing you’d be inno scanned as gf N2, and are hoping the cop reveals you for the full clear?

I love it when people act like me pointing out that they're tunneling on someone is deflection. No, you hollow brained nincompoop, I'm pointing out that you're choosing to focus on parts of the picture and ignore other parts of the picture because it fits your agenda.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Because you’ve been instrumental in both days counterwagons.

The second bit you’re right on. That was bo now that I recall. Sorry for that much.

I’m still convinced you faked the roleblock, that you’ve intended to fully save snowy both days, and that you’re scum.

bo volunteering himself to try to deflect off of you is interesting. Are you and snowy both scum PRs? Did you fake the rb knowing you’d be inno scanned as gf N2, and are hoping the cop reveals you for the full clear?

I agree I was instrumental in the D2 counterwagon. I did not buy the case on either guy, and I wanted to start a new wagon.

I don't think any reasonable person could say I was instrumental in the D3 counterwagon. I have like, kinda scumread Telamor, but I never felt convinced about him, right down to the reveal. I never pushed that wagon, nor did I try to dissuade people from voting Snowy. Your facts are all wrong.

[DemonRHK]

Because you’ve been instrumental in both days counterwagons.

The second bit you’re right on. That was bo now that I recall. Sorry for that much.

I’m still convinced you faked the roleblock, that you’ve intended to fully save snowy both days, and that you’re scum.

bo volunteering himself to try to deflect off of you is interesting. Are you and snowy both scum PRs? Did you fake the rb knowing you’d be inno scanned as gf N2, and are hoping the cop reveals you for the full clear?

I agree I was instrumental in the D2 counterwagon. I did not buy the case on either guy, and I wanted to start a new wagon.

I don't think any reasonable person could say I was instrumental in the D3 counterwagon. I have like, kinda scumread Telamor, but I never felt convinced about him, right down to the reveal. I never pushed that wagon, nor did I try to dissuade people from voting Snowy. Your facts are all wrong.

Is that the real issue? That I’m right for wrong reasons?



Where is everyone else? Or is it going to be me against bo and Balki all night?

God knows we are going to get fuck all from snowy and Ezio.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Is that the real issue? That I’m right for wrong reasons?



Where is everyone else? Or is it going to be me against bo and Balki all night?

God knows we are going to get fuck all from snowy and Ezio.

I don't know, dude. You seem to think I'm scum. Build your case. What facts lead you to believe that? What is my scum motivation and why is it more likely than Town Balki's explanation?

So far you've said that I'm scum based on things that are not true. So, is it because you misread those facts and learning the truth causes you to reevaluate? Or, do you not really care about the facts? Or, now that you know the facts, do you think I am scum for some different reason?

Engage with me. Tell me why you think I'm scum. Let's discuss it.

[DemonRHK]

Fine, I’m going to pour over the Peterbot and I’ll be back.

[ghug]

I don't like Telamor flipping town. I don't like Balki being defensive here instead of just being like "yeah I voted for him; deal with it". I don't like RHK getting mad at Balki for this but not thamrick (or me for that matter). I don't like anyone who still wants to lynch snowy after he pretty much accepted death to avoid a tie.

We don't like Ike.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Fine, I’m going to pour over the Peterbot and I’ll be back.

Engage with me now!

You seem pretty convinced already. "Un-fucking-believable!" Right?

Why not engage with me now about the things that apparently made you so angry?

[TrPrado]

I don't like Telamor flipping town. I don't like Balki being defensive here instead of just being like "yeah I voted for him; deal with it". I don't like RHK getting mad at Balki for this but not thamrick (or me for that matter). I don't like anyone who still wants to lynch snowy after he pretty much accepted death to avoid a tie.

We don't like Ike.

I'm just quoting because this man is right on the money. That was absolutely a town response from snowball.

[TrPrado]

I asked Demon about it but he never responded.

[ghug]

Unfortunately, I think that means another town v. town day, which is blegh.