MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#681 Post by ghug » Thu May 10, 2018 10:13 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:11 pm
I also want to not while Telamor hasn’t provided any info, any reads, they made sure not to miss EoN.
Huh? Was he online?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#682 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:12 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 pm
I was role blocked.
Yeaaaaaaa I’m gonna take that with a grain of salt. I’d wager 60/40 toward the truth atm.
Tell us why, please.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#683 Post by DemonRHK » Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm

And browsing the thread momentarially at least. Gone now. No posts before or after deadline.

Yea, Telamor gaining scumbo points by the minute.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#684 Post by teacher2 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:16 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:12 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 pm
I was role blocked.
Yeaaaaaaa I’m gonna take that with a grain of salt. I’d wager 60/40 toward the truth atm.
Do VTs learn they were blocked?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#685 Post by DemonRHK » Thu May 10, 2018 10:18 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:12 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 pm
I was role blocked.
Yeaaaaaaa I’m gonna take that with a grain of salt. I’d wager 60/40 toward the truth atm.
Tell us why, please.
You’re a strange target for a rb. RBs create townclears, so either they thought you were a PR or maf holstered to claim.

To me, the xorx kill is suboptimal, which increases the chance maf wouldn’t think twice about more suboptimal plays, such a free townclears.

Hence, 60/40

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#686 Post by DemonRHK » Thu May 10, 2018 10:18 pm

teacher2 wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:16 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:12 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:10 pm
I was role blocked.
Yeaaaaaaa I’m gonna take that with a grain of salt. I’d wager 60/40 toward the truth atm.
Do VTs learn they were blocked?
Yes.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#687 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:19 pm

Provided that nobody counterclaims my role block, I think we know:

(1) I am scum, and scum holstered their RB; or
(2) I am town and scum thought I may be a PR

Is it possible that scum holstered their RB to try to give me Town cred? Yes, certainly. But that would be an odd strategy. I was not under much suspicion, and holstering a Role Block is a somewhat expensive way to try to give me town cred, when it is probably more likely to backfire and shine a spotlight on me.

Anyway, I'm town, and I was role blocked.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#688 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:21 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:18 pm
You’re a strange target for a rb. RBs create townclears, so either they thought you were a PR or maf holstered to claim.

To me, the xorx kill is suboptimal, which increases the chance maf wouldn’t think twice about more suboptimal plays, such a free townclears.

Hence, 60/40
Why do you say "RBs create townclears" when you obviously know that is false?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#689 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu May 10, 2018 10:21 pm

##Vote Snowy

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#690 Post by Telamor » Thu May 10, 2018 10:22 pm

Right. I do not know enough about this game to do a read list, I'm going to need some time before I'm even close to understanding enough of what you guys are saying to properly interpret it. I also dont know how you guys play normally so I haven't got that to go on either. That said I do have some thoughts:

Firstly why are we so keen on lynching people early game? Surely as town we want to play for time early game which would mean preserving townie lives and gaining some time to properly examine how people are voting and responding to better gauge scuminess.

Secondly, Prado I don't know how you expect new players to act but I am not shy retiring violet by nature. I'm also not being coached, I'm still fumbling around and trying to figure out which end of this game is which. I think that's been pretty obvious so far which makes me wonder if you just reckon I'll be an easy lynch because I'm new. Let me say stupid things to make myself look like scum while you build up a small anti-Telamor posse. Get me lynched then when it turns out I'm townie just.shrug your shoulders and blame it on my being new. One townie down for minimal effort.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#691 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:23 pm

Incidentally, I feel pretty confident that (1) RagingIke is Scum and (2) that we should have no urgency at all to lynch him, as he is locked into a claim and more information about him will be revealed in time.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#692 Post by ghug » Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 pm

Balki, what does being roleblocked make you think of Ike?

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#693 Post by ghug » Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 pm

Well now I just feel silly.

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#694 Post by teacher2 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:25 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:18 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:12 pm


Yeaaaaaaa I’m gonna take that with a grain of salt. I’d wager 60/40 toward the truth atm.
Tell us why, please.
You’re a strange target for a rb. RBs create townclears, so either they thought you were a PR or maf holstered to claim.

To me, the xorx kill is suboptimal, which increases the chance maf wouldn’t think twice about more suboptimal plays, such a free townclears.

Hence, 60/40
He did have the encrypted keyboard sitting. Im interested in the existence of a cc, though, because I give this 95/5 townclear. I dont think mafia sits on their RB to give scum!Balki cred when Ike is outed PR, unless Ike is also Mafia. I dont think Balki and Ike are both mafia, given Balki's voting and hard Ike pressure.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#695 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:27 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 pm
Balki, what does being roleblocked make you think of Ike?
Well, I felt pretty certain that Ike was scum before the RB, so it doesn't change it much. I suppose that, if Ike is Town PR, scum would have had a large incentive to at least RB him as they would have considered there to be a high likelihood that Ike is Cop. I expect Scum are going to be hunting for cop every night until Cop dies. Cop is a big, big deal in this setup.

On the other hand, another reasonable approach for scum here, if Ike is indeed a Town PR, would be to ignore him and hope that Town lynches him early.

We're not going to do that. We'll let Ike hang out for a bit as we gather more information in time.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#696 Post by Telamor » Thu May 10, 2018 10:28 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm
And browsing the thread momentarially at least. Gone now. No posts before or after deadline.

Yea, Telamor gaining scumbo points by the minute.
I have no idea what EoN is or what the deadline you're talking about was. As for my general lack of posting I've written two posts that didn't end up on the board because, being on mobile, I thought I'd hit submit but instead hit preview. You are insinuating that I have a far greater knowledge of this game than I do.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#697 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 10, 2018 10:31 pm

ghug wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 pm
Well now I just feel silly.
What does this mean, and what did you mean by your "wat" reaction earlier?

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#698 Post by snowy801 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:35 pm

come one, come all! snowy lynches on special discounts for just the low, low price of $10.19
don't miss out on this once in a lifetime opportunity

I would presume it's because you answered his question before he asked it balks

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#699 Post by ghug » Thu May 10, 2018 10:37 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:31 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 10:24 pm
Well now I just feel silly.
What does this mean, and what did you mean by your "wat" reaction earlier?
Because you had (in part) answered my question before I asked it.

The roleblock is highly surprising to me. I expected Ike to be claiming roleblock regardless of his role. I'm looking forward to Ezio's very hot take on the issue.

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Re: MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

#700 Post by snowy801 » Thu May 10, 2018 10:38 pm

you're assuming ezio has opinions. A questionable assumption, I think

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