Tragedy of the Commons: a social experiment (game thread)

[Pengwinja]

Huh?

I have an ability to move the legal amount of fish you can fish a day up or down once. I don’t know exactly what happens if you fish over, but i think if you do, you get a tag which makes it so you can be punished in court, which is why i asked if anyone had the court ability.

Move it back down, please.

Why are you encouraging over-fishing??

I believe that at post 58 i said that the legal limit starts at five. I plan to move it down to three.

[Pengwinja]

Seriously I'm a bit confused.

What's the diff between phases?

When do we find out how many fish there are?

What's the difference between a Tag and an Ability?

Tags are more like status effects, so more passive abilities.
Abilities are activated, so… like activated abilities.

Phase two is when actions can be put in.
Phase one is discuss.

I don’t know when we find out.

I lied, abilities are just like they are said, abilities.
Tags are titles that can come with certain abilities.
I made a mistake, my bad

[Jamiet99uk]

I have an ability to move the legal amount of fish you can fish a day up or down once. I don’t know exactly what happens if you fish over, but i think if you do, you get a tag which makes it so you can be punished in court, which is why i asked if anyone had the court ability.

Move it back down, please.

Why are you encouraging over-fishing??

I believe that at post 58 i said that the legal limit starts at five. I plan to move it down to three.

Oh ok then, good.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where is the GM?

[kingofthepirates]

Where is the GM?

Somewhere over the rainbow

[Pengwinja]

Where is the GM?

Somewhere over the rainbow

How do you know? Did you take him there? Did you get rid of the game master, in hopes of fishing the rest of the fish from the pond?

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

Where is the GM?

Somewhere over the rainbow

How do you know? Did you take him there? Did you get rid of the game master, in hopes of fishing the rest of the fish from the pond?

I was busy having a life.

Seriously I'm a bit confused.

What's the diff between phases?

When do we find out how many fish there are?

What's the difference between a Tag and an Ability?

So, this is something I have been PMed about and I'm going to go ahead and explain it in some detail.

Everyone submitted actions they wish to take during PHASE 1. These actions were submitted to me during PHASE 2. They are (with a few exceptions) executed throughout the phase rather than instantly. You don't instantly fish 5 fish. Granted, this would be a reasonable detail to ignore. However, I wanted to add a level of planning. Because you submit the amount of fish to fish, then have 24 hours to decide on Phase 2 (which, by the way, I am desperately trying not to call "Night" despite mafia influences) actions, you must make choices with less than ideal levels of info.

One idea I'm considering is merging the phases and simply having stuff happen each day, keeping the planning aspect but ditching the separate phases. This would probably speed up the game. Either way, though, the lack of, for example, knowing how much fish were fished before choosing whether to use an ability is important to the game design.

For the difference between a tag and an ability, read my posts on the sign-up thread.

Phase 1 is when fishing and other mostly public actions take effect. Phase 2 is when more clandestine abilities take effect.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why does Phase 2 happen before Phase 1?

That's quite weird.

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

Why does Phase 2 happen before Phase 1?

That's quite weird.

Phase 1 was intended to happen before Phase 2, but Phase 1 is when fishing happens and for that we need amounts of fish to fish and for that we need Phase 2... The Phase 2 of Round 0 wasn't really a "round" so much as a pre-game. Like a prologue.

[Pengwinja]

How many fish are left?

[Diplomacy&Warfare]

It's time for the Phase Change.
It is now round 1 Phase 2.
54 fish remain.
PMs going out now.
Send the amount of fish you wish to fish, as well as any other abilities you wish to use during phase 1 of next round, in a PM to me.

[Pengwinja]

Someone was overfishing, or someone’s…

[kingofthepirates]

True. Very unfortunate… how do y’all suggest we proceed? Anyone’s abilities reveal something?

[Pengwinja]

True. Very unfortunate… how do y’all suggest we proceed? Anyone’s abilities reveal something?

Jamiet can clear someone, or expose someone, right?

[kingofthepirates]

True. Very unfortunate… how do y’all suggest we proceed? Anyone’s abilities reveal something?

Jamiet can clear someone, or expose someone, right?

That’s the vibe I got, yeah. Did you find anything Jamie?

[Jamiet99uk]

It's time for the Phase Change.
It is now round 1 Phase 2.
54 fish remain.
PMs going out now.
Send the amount of fish you wish to fish, as well as any other abilities you wish to use during phase 1 of next round, in a PM to me.

Why was one phase much shorter than the previous one?

[Jamiet99uk]

It's time for the Phase Change.
It is now round 1 Phase 2.
54 fish remain.
PMs going out now.
Send the amount of fish you wish to fish, as well as any other abilities you wish to use during phase 1 of next round, in a PM to me.

Why was one phase much shorter than the previous one?

[DrFidelis]

At the very least, we didn't have too much overfishing, since we still had 4 fish be added to the pond. Let's have another round of 2 fish fishing, until we find this one guy who's overfishing.

[Pengwinja]

At the very least, we didn't have too much overfishing, since we still had 4 fish be added to the pond. Let's have another round of 2 fish fishing, until we find this one guy who's overfishing.

I can move the legal limit down to three next phase. It will take another phase to move it down to two.

[damo666]

So 14 fish were caught, suspect 5*2 and 4 or maybe 4*2 and 2*3. Former more likely imo.

This phase we could all fish for 3 and leave pond static or all fish for two which would allow growth and following phase we could catch 3 and still have further growth.

So let's stick with 2.

How do we catch greedy overfisher?