Twenty Questions: Game 220

[Hominidae]

Is this a head of state and/or head of government?

[han-shahanshah]

Born in South America?

[JECE]

born in: France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Italy, or Greece?

Born in a city or locality of a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?

(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?

The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.

[wintergreen]

Is this a head of state and/or head of government?

Yes.

Born in South America?

No.

[Hominidae]

born in: France, Germany, Russia, Spain, Italy, or Greece?

Born in a city or locality of a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?

(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?

The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.

The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".

[Hominidae]

Was this person the head of state and/or government of a country in Western, Middle, or Eastern Africa by the UN geoscheme? For simplicity I'll say that pre-2011 Sudan would be a "no".

[wintergreen]

Was this person the head of state and/or government of a country in Western, Middle, or Eastern Africa by the UN geoscheme? For simplicity I'll say that pre-2011 Sudan would be a "no".

Yes.

[damo666]

Died after 1999?

[Hominidae]

Leader of Ethiopia, Nigeria, Mali, Niger, Ghana, Cameroon, the DRC, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Angola, Mozambique, or Madagscar? (Or one of those countries under a different name.)

[wintergreen]

Died after 1999?

Yes.

Leader of Ethiopia, Nigeria, Mali, Niger, Ghana, Cameroon, the DRC, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Angola, Mozambique, or Madagscar? (Or one of those countries under a different name.)

Yes.

[damo666]

Free guess: Idi Amin?

[wintergreen]

Free guess: Idi Amin?

That's right. The last king of Scotland has conquered WebDiplomacy as well.

[damo666]

Free guess: Idi Amin?

That's right. The last king of Scotland has conquered WebDiplomacy as well.

New game up shortly.

[JECE]

(Not a question for the QM.)

These questions are a bit vague considering that this person is dead and we don't know how old they are. Would someone born in Roman Gaul be counted as born in "France", for example?

The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.

The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".

I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality

[Hominidae]

The way that I phrased it wasn't vague. For example, Lugdunum (Lyon) is a locality of the modern country of France.

The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".

I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality

Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.

[JECE]

The phrasing is still vague. For example, Teotihuacan is a city within the current borders of Mexico, but it's not "a city in Mexico".

I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality

Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.

I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.

[Hominidae]

I've been to Teotihuacán. It's very much a real "locality" in Mexico. See for yourself the definition of locality if you like:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/locality

Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.

I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.

I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"

[JECE]

Fair enough, but if someone was born there in 1400, they weren't born in a locality in Mexico, because Mexico didn't exist yet. They were born in what would one day become part of Mexico.

I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.

I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"

I don't see a difference between "area" and "city or locality". Pedantry has its place in a game like this, but not to the point of hypercorrection. As to the length of my question, surely there were shorter options available that I didn't use, but there are caveats there, as not all members of APEC are countries.

[Hominidae]

I actually drafted the question to be a little longer, something like: "Born in a city or locality [that is currently in] a country or territory that is currently a member of APEC or ASEAN?" But that would have been more difficult to read and understand, as well as redundant: a locality currently within a modern-day country is still a locality "of" a modern-day country.

I would have just said, "Born in an area that is currently part of an APEC or ASEAN country?"

I don't see a difference between "area" and "city or locality". Pedantry has its place in a game like this, but not to the point of hypercorrection. As to the length of my question, surely there were shorter options available that I didn't use, but there are caveats there, as not all members of APEC are countries.

The key distinction is "currently part of".