Twenty questions, round 157: Thanksgiving week two-for-one!

[Spartaculous]

Was this person either a diplomat or part of a boy band?

I am using the first sentence of the Wikipedia article: "A boy band is loosely defined as a vocal group consisting of young male singers, usually in their teenage years or in their twenties at the time of formation.".

Person A: No. Again, he definitely ran in the same circles as diplomats, but he wasn't himself officially a diplomat, as far as I can tell.

Person B: No.

[Hominidae]

Born during the reign of an even-numbered King George of Great Britain/the United Kingdom?

[Spartaculous]

Born during the reign of an even-numbered King George of Great Britain/the United Kingdom?

Ha!

Person A: Yes.

Person B: Yes.

[damo666]

PERSON A

Real dead male human being born after 1700 AD

1. Likely a native Anglophone, certainly spoke English.
2. Born in Europe.
3. White.
4. Not a political leader, but associated with them.
5. born before 01.01.1900
6. Not Irish
7. Wrote memoirs but writing not source of fame
8. Not an explorer
9. not famed for the arts
10. Born in GB
11. Born before 1770 [due to 9]
12. Not a scientist [due to 10]
13. Titled but not nobility
14. Not a diplomat (though ran in those circles), not in boy band!
15. Born [11.06.1727 - 25.10.1760]

Free info - died in Europe

PERSON 2

Real living male human being.

i) Native English speaker.
ii) Born in Europe.
iii) White
iv) Not a political leader.
v) unsurprisingly not born prior to 1900
vi) not Irish
vii) writing is, in a very broad sense, partly a reason for this person's fame
viii) not an explorer
ix) famed for the arts
x) born in GB
xi) known for music
xii) not released a top ten single or album since 1.1.2020
xiii) born before 01.01.1970
xiv) not diplomat or boy band member
xv) born [11.12.1936 - 06.02.1952]

[Jamiet99uk]

PERSON A

...

10. Born in GB
11. Born before 1770 [due to 9]
12. Not a scientist [due to 10]

...

Excuse me, Damo, but you appear to be implying that there have never been any British scientists.

This seems a bit of a strange thing to assume?

[cdngooner]

"A boy band is loosely defined as a vocal group consisting of young male singers, usually in their teenage years or in their twenties at the time of formation.".

That definition of "boy band" is frustrating as it would include such groups as the Beatles or Stones (although we already know its not Paul or Ringo as they have the current #1 single; and Mick and Keith have a #1 album this year).

[cdngooner]

Is this person either (a) a general or admiral; or (b) member of a band in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

[Spartaculous]

"A boy band is loosely defined as a vocal group consisting of young male singers, usually in their teenage years or in their twenties at the time of formation.".

That definition of "boy band" is frustrating as it would include such groups as the Beatles or Stones (although we already know its not Paul or Ringo as they have the current #1 single; and Mick and Keith have a #1 album this year).

I would not define the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, etc. as "boy bands", because they were not primarily vocal bands. There is a fundamental difference between them and, say, the Backstreet Boys. Otherwise, we would probably have to include most rock bands in the category of boy bands.

[Spartaculous]

Is this person either (a) a general or admiral; or (b) member of a band in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

Person A: yes.

Person B: Yes.

[Temasek22]

Born [11.06.1727 - 25.10.1760] just about rules out James Clive and John Wolfe, at a lost as to which general/admiral this could be

[cdngooner]

Was this person either an admiral in the wars against Napoleonic France; or the lead singer of a RRHOF-inducted band?

[damo666]

Wild guess

Admiral Nelson

Nelson Keene

[DougJoe]

I would not define the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, etc. as "boy bands", because they were not primarily vocal bands.

Interestingly enough, the Wikipedia page on "Boy Band" that was mentioned earlier in the thread has an entire section on The Beatles and whether they were one or not. Opinions are mixed.

[damo666]

PERSON A

...

10. Born in GB
11. Born before 1770 [due to 9]
12. Not a scientist [due to 10]

...

Excuse me, Damo, but you appear to be implying that there have never been any British scientists.

This seems a bit of a strange thing to assume?

Due to 11. We know born before 1770 but not both that and a scientist.

[Spartaculous]

Wild guess

Admiral Nelson

Nelson Keene

I've never heard of Nelson Keene before this. No.

[Spartaculous]

Was this person either an admiral in the wars against Napoleonic France; or the lead singer of a RRHOF-inducted band?

Person A: No.

Person B: No.

[cdngooner]

Its John Paul Jones and John Paul Jones.

[Spartaculous]

Its John Paul Jones and John Paul Jones.

Yes it is!

[cdngooner]

WHEW!

The born in Britain, died in Europe, led us down a rabbithole of BRITISH generals and admirals. I figured there would be a connection and only figured it out as I was reading the list of RRHOF inductees.

[cdngooner]

That was quite fun. Thank you Spartaculous.