MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[Bonatogether]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

this is a scummy post

##vote just

Can you expand on this thought process?

if he believes that i 'errantly believed he was certainly going to die', then that is totally disconnected with my alignment (which he then simply assumes is scum). Similarly, if he believes what I quoted, then it cannot be 'extremely intentionally sub-optimal play'. It simply is self contradictory and ends up with a scumread

[Bonatogether]

I will abstain from voting because when someone claims a power role, things get interesting later down the line.

Can you expand on this thought process?

I can’t really. I have no clue what might go on later in the day, so I will hold until I see something that might sway my notion that Bona is lying

what possible info could come out that benefits me that hasn't already? all my cards are on the table but there could be fakeclaims of any sort. there's no sheriff about to show up saying that he scanned me inno or anything.

[Bonatogether]

Can you expand on this thought process?

I can’t really. I have no clue what might go on later in the day, so I will hold until I see something that might sway my notion that Bona is lying

what possible info could come out that benefits me that hasn't already? all my cards are on the table but there could be fakeclaims of any sort. there's no sheriff about to show up saying that he scanned me inno or anything.

this is just waiting to jump on someone else's reason to vote me

[TheMadMonarch]

Just, heart, Macca? You all show as online.

Just has been posting here.

C'mon people! Play with me! I'm feeling stoked we got something going, and we got some mechs to decide as a group, and I think it's important you three weigh in!

I had about 20 pages to read

[TheMadMonarch]

Some severe OMGUSing going on here

In retrospect, I guess it is.

Ghug is a usual townread from me. I like the way he thinks, plays and defends. Nothing about him seems off, and I'd like to keep him around.

Jamie is a bit of a shock. When I played back in the day, jamie and I did not get along, but he's been great this game. Attacking and defending ideas I also supported.

Bozo is a genius and a huge town asset, I support him long before I get a read on him.

I can't forsake Bob by voting bona with no good reason. Also, that guy is constantly D1'd and we all had a responsibility to stop that from happening again.


Tem. I know it looks OMGUS coming from me, but as many have said, the way you acted on D1 around voting me was suspicious. Others have explained it better than I could, and you all have zero reason to believe it coming from me.

Damo. For me, the read came from this post [editors note: 1am me is tired and cannot remember what post it was. Likely something where he hides behind math and poor assumptions]


Hope that helps you!

I find it conflicting to my own thoughts to see the town reads are more rooted in meta and the scum reads are rooted in this game. I can see this being done by both town and scum based off skill level, which I don’t have a good appreciation for Macca’s gameplay to assess…

If you're looking for my scum skill level, it's poor. You don't have to go past the Bob-Bona-Me game to see that.

[TheMadMonarch]

Dammit I overslept by half an hour and missed EoD, RIP Ham.

What time zone are you in?

[TheMadMonarch]

At the small town tree lighting..

(Lacey and Paschal enter holding hands.)

(Ryan Paevey arrives on his motorcycle)

(Kyle and Kim arrive)

Kyle: Look, a crowd of assholes. Quick I better defend you by leaving you behind while I run into this violent riot.

Kim: Seriously?

Hamilton Brian has died they were Kyle; a small town guy

Don't understand the Ham kill. He didn't feel scummy the whole read. Had I been awake, I would not have changed my vote.

[BunnyGo]

Just, heart, Macca? You all show as online.

Just has been posting here.

C'mon people! Play with me! I'm feeling stoked we got something going, and we got some mechs to decide as a group, and I think it's important you three weigh in!

I had about 20 pages to read

Skip to EON2 and catch up from there.

[TheMadMonarch]

Oh great Bozo!

Please explain what the fuck just happened with Bona. Too many people are saying things are obvious, but I just saw 3 pages of WORDS, and I'm confused.

Do we have to neck him now?

[TheMadMonarch]

Just, heart, Macca? You all show as online.

Just has been posting here.

C'mon people! Play with me! I'm feeling stoked we got something going, and we got some mechs to decide as a group, and I think it's important you three weigh in!

I had about 20 pages to read

Skip to EON2 and catch up from there.

I did it already...

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Depends if we hit a mafia. If we don’t, we probably should try again

Shouldn’t*

Do you agree that we should ask the vig (without them claiming) to shoot whoever is leading with exactly 24 hours to go in the day? Do you think the vig should do this?

Cant say. I feel the fact you said it out loud makes it so the mafia try hard to push a wagon that only mafia wants. So I’m genuinely not sure

[BunnyGo]

Shouldn’t*

Do you agree that we should ask the vig (without them claiming) to shoot whoever is leading with exactly 24 hours to go in the day? Do you think the vig should do this?

Cant say. I feel the fact you said it out loud makes it so the mafia try hard to push a wagon that only mafia wants. So I’m genuinely not sure

What's different to you than any other day vote?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Do you agree that we should ask the vig (without them claiming) to shoot whoever is leading with exactly 24 hours to go in the day? Do you think the vig should do this?

Cant say. I feel the fact you said it out loud makes it so the mafia try hard to push a wagon that only mafia wants. So I’m genuinely not sure

What's different to you than any other day vote?

Potentially two innocents dying. I just don’t know man. Maybe one vig kill is warranted, but not two

[BunnyGo]

I don't get Just's big change from last game.

Went to read him just now to see if he played scared like this then. Found this gem:

Ok. If the worst possible scenario happens:

Assuming we have 4 mafia (worst case scenario) We have two more mafia kills and two more miskill votes. That will leave us with 4 town and 2 mafia heading into night. Both axes are used (most likely), so no harm there. Then the town has one chance to vote a mafia. Then mafia kills on final person, and one mafia is left in the final 3 vote.

So its safe to say the town has the advantage Because I assume we won’t get 2 votes wrong.

He both dug in to the math, and was all over town going for it.

What's different @Just? Didn't you win last game?

[BunnyGo]

Heart never posted...

Macca gone, but at least said "hi".

@ghug, I'm thinking you're right we won't get the vig to do it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I don't get Just's big change from last game.

Went to read him just now to see if he played scared like this then. Found this gem:

Ok. If the worst possible scenario happens:

Assuming we have 4 mafia (worst case scenario) We have two more mafia kills and two more miskill votes. That will leave us with 4 town and 2 mafia heading into night. Both axes are used (most likely), so no harm there. Then the town has one chance to vote a mafia. Then mafia kills on final person, and one mafia is left in the final 3 vote.

So its safe to say the town has the advantage Because I assume we won’t get 2 votes wrong.

He both dug in to the math, and was all over town going for it.

What's different @Just? Didn't you win last game?

I lost last game. Because I was so newb town I was just too suspicious not to kill. So I changed LOTS.

[BunnyGo]

I don't get Just's big change from last game.

Went to read him just now to see if he played scared like this then. Found this gem:

Ok. If the worst possible scenario happens:

Assuming we have 4 mafia (worst case scenario) We have two more mafia kills and two more miskill votes. That will leave us with 4 town and 2 mafia heading into night. Both axes are used (most likely), so no harm there. Then the town has one chance to vote a mafia. Then mafia kills on final person, and one mafia is left in the final 3 vote.

So its safe to say the town has the advantage Because I assume we won’t get 2 votes wrong.

He both dug in to the math, and was all over town going for it.

What's different @Just? Didn't you win last game?

I lost last game. Because I was so newb town I was just too suspicious not to kill. So I changed LOTS.

Ah...that makes sense. Anything in particular you decided to change?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I don't get Just's big change from last game.

Went to read him just now to see if he played scared like this then. Found this gem:



He both dug in to the math, and was all over town going for it.

What's different @Just? Didn't you win last game?

I lost last game. Because I was so newb town I was just too suspicious not to kill. So I changed LOTS.

Ah...that makes sense. Anything in particular you decided to change?

My strategy. I am trying to be less outgoing and instead of defending myself as much, going into others motivations and tactics

[BunnyGo]

gnight...

lots of juicy stuff to talk about.

C'mon @Tem. Wake up and dig in!

damo, when you're rested I want your thoughts too. Let me wake up to 5+ pages of delightful musings and investigations.

And bozo! Come help bozo!

[ghug]

I lost last game. Because I was so newb town I was just too suspicious not to kill. So I changed LOTS.

Ah...that makes sense. Anything in particular you decided to change?

My strategy. I am trying to be less outgoing and instead of defending myself as much, going into others motivations and tactics

Show, don't tell.