MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Jamie probably said something that ticked off the mafia. Deep analysis time.

Oh…there you are. Where you been?

Been with family. I could only consistently tune in at EOD or EON because I was doing stuff otherwise.

[worcej]

His only mention of Bona D2 was saying he liked his VCA, so he either was avoiding mentioning him or it's not a crumb.

He did say this EoN1, though, which points to crumb:

crumb?

Jamie was the watcher.

Putting Bona in a different color than everyone else also feels crumby.

Pains me to type these words… but I agree with ghug.

[worcej]

i claim doctor

i normally don't crumb but bozo at least caught onto my 'other necessary measures' comment d1

saved myself n1
saved bozo n2

believe it's a good idea to claim because jamie seems to have indicated that he scumread me based on visits and if i am counterclaimed, a 1-1 trade is good for town. i am also able to potentially dodge nks in the event there is no cc.

I will withhold and vote until a CC comes out, but this is weird to see with what I would consider Jamie’s crumb

[worcej]

I think real doc shouldn’t counter claim. I also think it’s time for mech discussion because our vig isn’t doing their job. But I’m at dinner with my kid and phone is below 9%.

So back later.

##vote damo

Vote scum

Then we talk mechs.

I am confused on what mechs you’re referring to that may be confusing…

My first thought is Jamie saw Bona visit someone on N1 or something and then built his massive case on him to get a flip without claiming. The “If I die, kill him” makes me believe he saw Bona visit somebody to be more sure in that statement.

[worcej]

This makes no sense.

If Bona visited himself Jamie would know he was doctor, right? [Would he think RB RB'd themselves jic of being a watch target? No ofcn].

So why would scumBona say that he could say he saved anyone, no? [I'm assuming no message to unsaved save target]

I'm confused.

I'm also clearly non-doc town or a highly skilled scum actor.

I am confused on the confusion here.

Based off Jamie’s statements, I think the real question here is bona being truthful with a N1 self visit?

Jamie isn’t stupid and would not scum him if he saw him self-visit.

[worcej]

if he visited me n1, he would have seen me visiting myself, thereby showing that i am doc. therefore this is impossible

So, you didn't visit yourself N1?

I'm assuming if he's the real doc he lied about his visits to wifim scum and if he's the fake doc he's pretending to do that. An easily disprovable best-effort fakeclaim and Jamie seeing bona visit himself and scumreading him are both comically unlikely.

This.

[worcej]

Whoever he protected N1 is protectable tonight though which is useful information.

No. EVERYONE is potentially protectable is the important information. N1 doesn’t matter for the game of RPS they’re playing.

N1 protect is more likely to be protected though, as bona wanted to protect them to begin with and they weren't protected last night.

N1 self protection is a rookie doctor mistake if Bona did it…

[Bonatogether]

No. EVERYONE is potentially protectable is the important information. N1 doesn’t matter for the game of RPS they’re playing.

N1 protect is more likely to be protected though, as bona wanted to protect them to begin with and they weren't protected last night.

N1 self protection is a rookie doctor mistake if Bona did it…

i have no pr brain (as proven by many previous games), so given what i thought was an obvious pr hint,i thought it necessary

[ghug]

crumb?

Jamie was the watcher.

Putting Bona in a different color than everyone else also feels crumby.

Pains me to type these words… but I agree with ghug.

Story of this game lol

[ghug]

N1 protect is more likely to be protected though, as bona wanted to protect them to begin with and they weren't protected last night.

N1 self protection is a rookie doctor mistake if Bona did it…

i have no pr brain (as proven by many previous games), so given what i thought was an obvious pr hint,i thought it necessary

Wait, what hint?

[ghug]

Will, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts if you're still here.

[worcej]

N1 protect is more likely to be protected though, as bona wanted to protect them to begin with and they weren't protected last night.

N1 self protection is a rookie doctor mistake if Bona did it…

i have no pr brain (as proven by many previous games), so given what i thought was an obvious pr hint,i thought it necessary

What was the obvious PR hint?

[worcej]

Damnit ghug, get out of my head.

[ghug]

Damnit ghug, get out of my head.

please send help it's disgusting in here

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

[Bonatogether]

N1 self protection is a rookie doctor mistake if Bona did it…

i have no pr brain (as proven by many previous games), so given what i thought was an obvious pr hint,i thought it necessary

Wait, what hint?

damo quoted it recently

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

I will abstain from voting because when someone claims a power role, things get interesting later down the line.

[Bonatogether]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

this is a scummy post

##vote just

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

this is a scummy post

##vote just

This is not a scummy post. This is a genuine question I have for your motivation to reveal in such a way.

[ghug]

I just don’t know why the hell Bona revealed so early? A very weird move, and I have some thoughts on it. My red flags keep going off for multiple reasons: Did he not think to wait until he actually became a potential target in the later stages of the game? Outwardly, this just feels like an extremely intentionally sub-optimal play. Currently, I think Bona errantly believed he was certainly going to die, and as mafia, decided to pull a Hail Mary and see what happens

I will abstain from voting because when someone claims a power role, things get interesting later down the line.

Can you expand on this thought process?