M82: Magic the Gathering Mafia [Game Thread]

[Kakarroto]

Kak, on D1, what was the point of your self-vote. You presented it as a pity party I am doomed type of vote, when you were only one vote in the lead.

Was this performative? If so, what was your intention? If not, why did you feel that way, given it was D1 where people tend to have the least conviction and flash wagons easy to come by?

well, I was dared to do so and thinking about it shortly, it seemed as a not too bad thing to do since so many was sus of me that it looked like I'd would be mk'ed on a later date and I don't want to be the reason agaon town loses voting me. Also with my behaviour I showed to be kinda fearless of the vanillizer so mafia would probably not consider me in their nk, so I was kinda ok going there without causing an important PR to be voted out or reveal.

I was however reminded that it wasn't good play and even when damo had a chance of being pr, he had alsso the chance of being mafia, so then I reconsidered and voted for damo to let town make that decision. I guess a bit of *thumbsupwhilebeingputintomeltingmetal* was part of it since I didn't really want to leave the game early again after last time (since I feel the messages then were ignored too much so I couldn't really influence anything), but my first concern was not to cause too much damage to town there.

[Kakarroto]

Bona, we really need to consolidate as town. I think you said you weren't going to be here EoD?

Given the current wagons, I don't think we're going to vote Bunny today.

Could you move over to Ham? Or are you thinking they are town?

If we get scum today, we may well have time to vote Bunny later (given that Bunny is actually Mafia, which I currently don't quite believe).

i don't believe i said that, but i will be cutting it close, as it happens

if i move over to ham, he'll have 5 votes out of a 4 person town, which smells real fishy to me.

is this a mafclaim? because if you are town wouldn'T you just say that one maf has to be on brian already?

[BunnyGo]

I will be leaving in 10-15 minutes and not able to check in again after that. Apologies, but I’ll sheep Vecna after trying to convince him to change his vote elsewhere first.

[BunnyGo]

Would prefer Ham Bone or rdr over Bona.

Would even prefer sweet over bona

[Kakarroto]

also I don't like the claim from Vecna. I'm not sure but it feels unreal. I don't know though.

If I made no mistake, it looks like 4 are on brian currently. Vecna is not though. So if he is actually the PR, then one maf has to be on brian. Of course there is the possibility Vecna is just maf and tries to sway us. Vecna townread brian for a big portion of the game though so that would fit into the theory both are maf. And both are voting for bona currently.

Hmm ... well bona is voting bunny right now who is voting brian. So is the team just Vecna-brian-bona and they either try to bus bona or bona is actually the dark knight? Ever since Vecna talked about that I am concerned about that role. Or are they trying to get a mk on bona for the win?

I'm not sure. Maybe Vecna is actually PR and just wrong about brian and one maf is bussing him. From how it looks though I doubt brian is that dark knight, so while I was concerned about that a bit, it looks like we're fine just staying on brian.

[Bonatogether]

im going to play eu4

will return

What run are you doing? I have a good Byzantine run going, smashed the Ottomans and completely wiped them out by 1500, just recently kicked Venice off of my islands and now have to figure out how to deal with the Mamluks who unfortunately got some land that I really wanted a while ago.

i'm doing a france run. spending a lot of time waiting for hre coalitions to fall apart

[Bonatogether]

Bona, we really need to consolidate as town. I think you said you weren't going to be here EoD?

Given the current wagons, I don't think we're going to vote Bunny today.

Could you move over to Ham? Or are you thinking they are town?

If we get scum today, we may well have time to vote Bunny later (given that Bunny is actually Mafia, which I currently don't quite believe).

i don't believe i said that, but i will be cutting it close, as it happens

if i move over to ham, he'll have 5 votes out of a 4 person town, which smells real fishy to me.

is this a mafclaim? because if you are town wouldn'T you just say that one maf has to be on brian already?

it's not a mafia claim but a statement of fact that out of 5 people, 1 must be mafia

[Kakarroto]

well, if bona (or if it gets really crazy someone else) gets 3 votes, any town not on brian should change to brian, just to make sure any maf on brian doesn't change at the last second.

[Bonatogether]

who is actually here for eod

[Bonatogether]

me, bongo, hb, kak, sweet all visible

[Kakarroto]

i don't believe i said that, but i will be cutting it close, as it happens

if i move over to ham, he'll have 5 votes out of a 4 person town, which smells real fishy to me.

is this a mafclaim? because if you are town wouldn'T you just say that one maf has to be on brian already?

it's not a mafia claim but a statement of fact that out of 5 people, 1 must be mafia

... so if you are town and only 4 people are town and you see 4 people voting someone, doesn't that mean that for you one of them has to be mafia?

[Bonatogether]

is this a mafclaim? because if you are town wouldn'T you just say that one maf has to be on brian already?

it's not a mafia claim but a statement of fact that out of 5 people, 1 must be mafia

... so if you are town and only 4 people are town and you see 4 people voting someone, doesn't that mean that for you one of them has to be mafia?

if i am looking for 3 town in a group of 6, then any group of 4 must have one not-town. true

[Bonatogether]

have at least one

[Hamilton Brian]

me, bongo, hb, kak, sweet all visible

Checking in but I also have a couple of diplomacy games on the go. Remember that game?

[Kakarroto]

it's not a mafia claim but a statement of fact that out of 5 people, 1 must be mafia

... so if you are town and only 4 people are town and you see 4 people voting someone, doesn't that mean that for you one of them has to be mafia?

if i am looking for 3 town in a group of 6, then any group of 4 must have one not-town. true

then wouldn't it be just the normal thing to think 'one of them is mafia' instead of 'if I join, there is one mafia'? because there is a big difference there, isn't it?

[Bonatogether]

me, bongo, hb, kak, sweet all visible

Checking in but I also have a couple of diplomacy games on the go. Remember that game?

i'm not sure i do

[Bonatogether]

... so if you are town and only 4 people are town and you see 4 people voting someone, doesn't that mean that for you one of them has to be mafia?

if i am looking for 3 town in a group of 6, then any group of 4 must have one not-town. true

then wouldn't it be just the normal thing to think 'one of them is mafia' instead of 'if I join, there is one mafia'? because there is a big difference there, isn't it?

but it's a simple fact that in any group of 5, there's mafia

[sweetandcool]

I'm here, able to read, probably able to focus in the last 5 min.

[Bonatogether]

gang of 4 here can decide the kill

[Bonatogether]

what is the group thinking