MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[President Eden]

Okay this is getting to be a bit much we should probably just kill him now

Remind me why he was locktown again?

Okay, you definitely did not understand my amogus theory post earlier lol

Oh I just put it together now

You’re such a jerk poor fishy

[President Eden]

Why? Explain me in your own words why Bozo's idea is bad?

Okay so what you do is. You take what Eden said right. Dumb it down about 50% make it sound really disjointed like someone's thoughts and words aren't adding up.

That's my answer.

Alternatively you just read what Eden said since it's the better explained smarter sounding version of what I would say. Thus +1.

How is mis-killing D3 and DKing damo D4 any worse than DKing damo D3 and mis-killing D4?

Do you agree with PE that damo is obviously mafia, yet is also a question that must be resolved today?

If damo is mafia, the other 2 mafia are very likely voting for him to make sure they get their credit for bussing him, or if damo is town, the mafia see him as an easy mis-kill. Either way, I don't think they prefer to wait another day.

Let me put it this way—if we aren’t killing damo today, we better either hit mafia or break the game wide open by whoever flips town. Because if we hit some uninspired town flip that doesn’t break the game wide open then we’re going to be here again, tomorrow, with another uninspired day where people try to galaxy brain their way out of not voting damo. We all KNOW that this is how webDip towns stagnate and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory even in better circumstances than this. I’m blown away that this is even a controversial stance

Plus my doppelgänger already claimed so there’s no longer a reason to fear hitting Doc.

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[Chaqa]

@Eden: your doppelgänger would be a princess, cause you’re a drama queen

[damo666]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

You really think ghug was the only scum on the CW to his own wagon?

[President Eden]

Remind me why he was locktown again?

Okay, you definitely did not understand my amogus theory post earlier lol

Oh I just put it together now

You’re such a jerk poor fishy

I guess I should fill in the rest of the class, especially since I have questions still.

In amogus Chaqa will sometimes lie about suspecting someone he thinks is crew, on the theory that this will bait impostors into killing someone more suspicious to him and making it easier to solve the game.

The reverse of this is claiming to townread an unknown or suspected slot so that they get nightkilled.

This passes superficial muster to me in that I can see town Chaqa doing this, but on further reflection, I struggle to believe town Chaqa would actually believe that his unexplained declarations about lfischl would have any real effect on the game state. It rather looks like something he would do for the exact purpose of having me, and probably Bona as well, seeing it and going “oh yes this is what town Chaqa does,” instead of actually being executed for the desired effect of getting lfischl nightkilled to resolve the slot.

Combine with an absence of actual hunting around the slot and I’m pretty unconvinced.

I think damo is a better kill still, but I would be considerably less bothered by killing Chaqa than most other not-damo options (which is part of why my opposition to scouting for other kills has been muted… if Chaqa ends up going instead I’m not going to be too bothered).

[damo666]

@Eden what is your view on the "one of TFB or damo must be scum theory"?

I may be misrepresenting it may be "TFB and damo can't both be scum theory."

If it's the latter then killing either of us may be a mistake because if we are TT then killing one will inevitably lead to a mk of the other the following day.

However in my eyes this would mean Bona must be scum but I can't see a Bona wagon happening today.

I still prefer TFB today but could be drawn to a Chaqa wagon if that's the only alternative to me.

[Chaqa]

@Eden: you've gotten the theory bit right, but not the plan. This wasn't an attempt to get Lfischl nightkilled, but an idea to have him not kill me so I could vote for him later if I'm alive.

I realized recently I probably won't make it that long and it's not super helpful given the state we're in.

[Chaqa]

We should keep 3D Burger King and MaruspialMurdered in the equation too.

[President Eden]

@Eden what is your view on the "one of TFB or damo must be scum theory"?

I may be misrepresenting it may be "TFB and damo can't both be scum theory."

If it's the latter then killing either of us may be a mistake because if we are TT then killing one will inevitably lead to a mk of the other the following day.

However in my eyes this would mean Bona must be scum but I can't see a Bona wagon happening today.

I still prefer TFB today but could be drawn to a Chaqa wagon if that's the only alternative to me.

If it’s neither of you then I have no fucking idea what is going on this game, mostly because a lot of my view of the game is contingent on you being mafia. So you’ll forgive me if I’m leery of even entertaining the question here because you’re pretty openly and shamelessly admitting that you’re just shopping for any kill that ain’t you

Pretty much all of TFB’s goodwill with me rests on the fact that after Flum and I and others put Boat’s feet to the fire D1, he went after you—I think correctly—in a way that I just don’t see him doing as a bus. I explained it to bozo earlier and I know bozo disagrees and thinks you could both be mafia, I don’t see that at all. But I would be blown away if you were both town and I think you’re the mafia between you two.

I don’t think I can get past what clearly looked to me to be your scum game D1/N1 and the shameless opportunism today.

I don’t want to be a jerk and be like “I’m not talking to u SCUM la-la-la” but like, kind of.

[brainbomb]

okay

##Vote TheFlyingBoat

[damo666]

@Eden what is your view on the "one of TFB or damo must be scum theory"?

I may be misrepresenting it may be "TFB and damo can't both be scum theory."

If it's the latter then killing either of us may be a mistake because if we are TT then killing one will inevitably lead to a mk of the other the following day.

However in my eyes this would mean Bona must be scum but I can't see a Bona wagon happening today.

I still prefer TFB today but could be drawn to a Chaqa wagon if that's the only alternative to me.

If it’s neither of you then I have no fucking idea what is going on this game, mostly because a lot of my view of the game is contingent on you being mafia. So you’ll forgive me if I’m leery of even entertaining the question here because you’re pretty openly and shamelessly admitting that you’re just shopping for any kill that ain’t you

Pretty much all of TFB’s goodwill with me rests on the fact that after Flum and I and others put Boat’s feet to the fire D1, he went after you—I think correctly—in a way that I just don’t see him doing as a bus. I explained it to bozo earlier and I know bozo disagrees and thinks you could both be mafia, I don’t see that at all. But I would be blown away if you were both town and I think you’re the mafia between you two.

I don’t think I can get past what clearly looked to me to be your scum game D1/N1 and the shameless opportunism today.

I don’t want to be a jerk and be like “I’m not talking to u SCUM la-la-la” but like, kind of.

OK that's fair but I assure I am vt.

[damo666]

@Eden: you've gotten the theory bit right, but not the plan. This wasn't an attempt to get Lfischl nightkilled, but an idea to have him not kill me so I could vote for him later if I'm alive.

I realized recently I probably won't make it that long and it's not super helpful given the state we're in.

This sounds believable.

[Princess Neon]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

Why do you think Bonatogether and TFB are town?

The magic of vote analysis

[Princess Neon]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

You really think ghug was the only scum on the CW to his own wagon?

Yes. I really do.

[Princess Neon]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

You really think ghug was the only scum on the CW to his own wagon?

Yes. I really do.

Scum could've saved Ghug. They didn't. There was almost certainly a bus. Why stack when you're bussing?

[dargorygel]

In the second edition of the Oxford English dictionary, there are approximately 600,000 word forms defined. This includes many old-fashioned words that are not in common use any more. The dictionary also expands every year to keep up with new words that are invented to describe the world around us, or to include new meanings for words that already exist in English. A more useful number from the Oxford English Dictionary would be the 171,476 words that are in current use.
The German language contains eight times as many words as the English language, but use around 135,000.
Here is a chart:
Language Words in the Dictionary
Korean 1,100,373
Japanese 500,000
Italian 260,000
English 171,476
Russian 150,000
Spanish 93,000
Chinese 85,568

VOTE COUNT
Damo666 (6): President Eden, Chaqa, TheFlyingBoat, bonatogether, rdrivera2005, BK3K
TheFlyingBoat (3): bozotheclown, damo666, brainbomb
Chaqa (2): Princess Neon, KoalaAttak

Enders: Chaqa, Neon, BK, Eden (so 3.. if Eden and Neon are the same person)

Fishing for a fish vote

Presently damo is leading the death-wish list.
Over 7.5 hours left.

[President Eden]

FYI, while I doubt I will totally avoid distraction at work today, I do have an important deadline to hit by mid-afternoon Thursday, so there’s a chance I’m not around for EOD today

[damo666]

You really think ghug was the only scum on the CW to his own wagon?

Yes. I really do.

Scum could've saved Ghug. They didn't. There was almost certainly a bus. Why stack when you're bussing?

Who was bussing? Caught Eden, rdr or both?

[damo666]

I've re-analysed wit the following assumptions:

brain town
Neon town
Bozo town

Not all scum on Bunny so at least one of {PE, Chaqa, rdr} must be scum}

ghug not solo scum on the me CW so at least one of {TFB, Bona} is scum

the following pairs eliminated due to voting

BK3 PE
Bona PE
Bona rdr
fish PE

This eaves the following possible teams:

BK3 Bona Chaqa
BK3 Bona PE
BK3 Chaqa TFB
BK3 PE TFB
BK3 rdr TFB
Bona Chaqa KA
Bona Chaqa fish
Bona Chaqa TFB
Chaqa KA TFB
Chaqa fish TFB
Chaqa PE TFB
Chaqa rdr TFB
KA PE TFB
KA rdr TFB
fish rdr TFB
PE rdr TFB

Frequency count:

BK3 5
Bona 5
Chaqa 9
KA 4
fish 3
PE 5
rdr 5
TFB 12

Yet again the conclusion I come to is TFB is the best flip. And hopefully when he flips scum the doubters might come round to the fact I am town.

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[damo666]

Please forgive the typos.