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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:23 pm
by Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:16 pm
##call GM, can the gamblers gun be used during day or not. The description is contradictory.
Both Gunsmith and Gambler guns can be fired in the daytime, yes.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:26 pm
by KoalaAttack
So the suspects left are:
Balki
Bozo
Bo
Damo
Chaqa
Rdrivera
Right?
Just a disclaimer, I am going to leave Bo to the rest of you folks to analyze – this here is a heavy post, not touching that one with a 9-foot pole as a new person for hopefully obvious reasons :)
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:15 am
Whoever killed ghug did me a favor ...
Looking at votes Balki started searching around when lfi was leading 3 to 2 then went back to lfi when it was clear. Bozo was on Bo for a long time and then went to lfi when it was done deal. Those are interesting.
Chaqa started the lfi wagon even before I did with the Rationales, and stayed on lfi through-out consistently – I think that's town-credit, but please correct me if that's more WIFOM.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:28 pm
by worcej
KoalaAttack wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:26 pm
So the suspects left are:
Balki
Bozo
Bo
Damo
Chaqa
Rdrivera
Right?
Just a disclaimer, I am going to leave Bo to the rest of you folks to analyze – this here is a heavy post, not touching that one with a 9-foot pole as a new person for hopefully obvious reasons :)
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:15 am
Whoever killed ghug did me a favor ...
Looking at votes Balki started searching around when lfi was leading 3 to 2 then went back to lfi when it was clear. Bozo was on Bo for a long time and then went to lfi when it was done deal. Those are interesting.
Chaqa started the lfi wagon even before I did with the Rationales, and stayed on lfi through-out consistently – I think that's town-credit, but please correct me if that's more WIFOM.
I believe Chaqa is town at this moment but he is known to bus and it's well in his realm of options/style to do that to lfischl to gather town credit.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:30 pm
by Balki Bartokomous
lfischl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:18 pm
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:03 am
lfischl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:40 am
Sorry was very busy today, for the balki claim I said something earlier, I don’t like it, but I do think he is probably town. Seems very defensive though, I don’t understand why he won’t talk about claiming it at all
Is it a coincidence that your posts this game so far are:
- replying to Balki
- calling Balki defensive
- reiterating to me that Balki is defensive
I would like to know more, perhaps including but not limited to your preferred steak temperature.
Its the only thing I've had enough time to read through, am going to re-read most of the thread soon. On the topic of steak, medium rare is the best, and if you like well done I'm voting you
Please put me down for this being a scum/scum interaction.
Bo is handling lfischl with gentle gloves, while giving the appearance of applying pressure. It's also subtle coaching.
Bo is on the team, I think.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:40 pm
by Chaqa
Well, we have one miskill to work with at least.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:11 am
by bo_sox48
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:48 pm
lfischl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:49 pm
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:40 pm
Who wants to flash wagon Bo for fun
I don't think bo is scum here
Ahhhhh...this
feels kinda unpairing from Lfischl and Bo....
This is near the wire on Day 1. It feels a little too strong for someone to say about a scum partner late in the Day 1 phase. I feel like a scum!lfischl would be hesitant to defend a teammate like that right in this moment.
I don’t think scum Balki bothers saying this about his teammate and a VT after that VT tried to goad him into a reckless attempt at a miskill, so I’m gonna go ahead and townlean Balki.
I also appreciate this “unpairing” movement. Gonna keep that one in my back pocket and when my energy is back (seems like it never will be but I can dream) I’ll use that tactic and see where it takes me.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:12 am
by bo_sox48
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:30 pm
lfischl wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:18 pm
bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:03 am
Is it a coincidence that your posts this game so far are:
- replying to Balki
- calling Balki defensive
- reiterating to me that Balki is defensive
I would like to know more, perhaps including but not limited to your preferred steak temperature.
Its the only thing I've had enough time to read through, am going to re-read most of the thread soon. On the topic of steak, medium rare is the best, and if you like well done I'm voting you
Please put me down for this being a scum/scum interaction.
Bo is handling lfischl with gentle gloves, while giving the appearance of applying pressure. It's also subtle coaching.
Bo is on the team, I think.
And this is why I usually start reading the recent stuff first.
Still townleaning Balki.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:14 am
by Chaqa
I'm gonna use the gun I got from Bunny to shoot Damo tonight.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:15 am
by bo_sox48
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:53 pm
There is a whole episode early Day 2 where Bo votes Chaqa. He doesn't really say much to convince anyone else, he just say things like:
Sure, I'm in ##VOTE Chaqa
Yay, we're doing something productive now
You expressed interest in voting Chaqa a few hours ago, are you still interested in that?
A bit later, with Chaqa still at 2 vote, Bo walks off and essentally kills that wagon:
I never really had any intention of keeping Chaqa up top, but I saw an opportunity to help worcej get his head back in the game and took it
Certainly consistent with distancing.
Worcej was going to jump off a cliff if someone didn’t stop his whining - or maybe I was gonna push him. I guess we’ll never know. Regardless, he wanted Chaqa; I gave him Chaqa. Why would I have scumread Chaqa in that moment? His D1 was top tier town Chaqa to the maximus.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:18 am
by bo_sox48
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:04 pm
Vote Count With Five Minutes Left in Day 2
dargorygel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:57 pm
Ole Dargo scratches some things off the blackboard, and scratches some new things on.
It now reads:
Bo_sox48 (4)
ghug,
yavu,
worcej, bozo
Yavuzovic (3) damo, rdr, lflisch
Ghug (2)
bunny, bo
Worcej (1)
Koala
BunnyGo (1) balki
Balki Bartokomous (1) Chaqa
Bo is set to be bedazzled
Five more minutes
If Bo is scum, then the bad guys were in trouble here...
This is actually a decent argument and if it weren’t me we were talking about I’d say that we should use our guaranteed miskill to take out that elephant in the room before it may cost us the game. It’s wild that at most a single vote was on scum there, but I don’t blame you one bit for not believing that.
Sucks to be me.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:30 am
by BunnyGo
Sooooo
Unlike last time, I think TONIGHT may be a good night to get the gambler an item.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:38 am
by Balki Bartokomous
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:30 am
Sooooo
Unlike last time, I think TONIGHT may be a good night to get the gambler an item.
Agree.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 am
by BunnyGo
I need some time tonight to research all the new intel. But ##vote chaqa for now.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:07 am
by Chaqa
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 am
I need some time tonight to research all the new intel. But ##vote chaqa for now.
I'm OK with going if it gets the gambler an item.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:23 am
by BunnyGo
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:07 am
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 am
I need some time tonight to research all the new intel. But ##vote chaqa for now.
I'm OK with going if it gets the gambler an item.
You're self voting...?
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:27 am
by Chaqa
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:23 am
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:07 am
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 am
I need some time tonight to research all the new intel. But ##vote chaqa for now.
I'm OK with going if it gets the gambler an item.
You're self voting...?
No, but if that's the way it goes.
Personally, I want to vote Damo tomorrow.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:43 am
by KoalaAttack
Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:38 am
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:30 am
Sooooo
Unlike last time, I think TONIGHT may be a good night to get the gambler an item.
Agree.
Just to clarify – does this imply that now we believe in group actions and follow-through on night votes?
Because anyone not adhering to them would expose themselves as Mafia at this point?
I still have Balki as a strong Mafia suspect for the last fake group action (in addition to the lfi alternative searching in the last vote I mentioned)
And if the goal is to get the Gambler – if they exist – an item, wouldn't we have to vote for 2 people – a primary and a backup in case primary gets killed? Or we are just certain that Mafia is going to kill a PR instead? Sorry if these are silly questions, I'm learning Mafia strategies.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:52 am
by Chaqa
I say, if the Gambler is alive tomorrow, we vote whoever they've picked on policy and don't speak of it anymore tonight.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:57 am
by BunnyGo
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:52 am
I say, if the Gambler is alive tomorrow, we vote whoever they've picked on policy and don't speak of it anymore tonight.
Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:00 am
by Chaqa
BunnyGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:57 am
Chaqa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:52 am
I say, if the Gambler is alive tomorrow, we vote whoever they've picked on policy and don't speak of it anymore tonight.
No reason to give mafia information, right?
And if they kill the gambler, what was the point anyway.