Mini Mafia II: Shakespeare Mash Game Thread

[thamrick]

Good Job, thanks to those who voted for Yavuyazu.
Who protected him again?

And Foxy is king?
Any ideas what that means?

And Ezio... don't you usually push No Lynch when we don't know much? Do you think we know more in this setup?

ghug and bo both made pretty defensive posts re: yav, but I'm not sure they're alignment indicative. It's a pretty common theme for people to say that yavuz just acts weird and scumreading him is tough.

[bo_sox48]

Bo, from what I've seen about anti-claim, it looks like it fucks us up for fakeclaiming just as much as it does for real claiming.

"You may claim roles, flavours, and specifics of your role if you wish; so long as your pm is not restricted, you can make things up too. Some roles may not want to claim, some roles may die if they claim. It is counter to both sides wincons to be forced to claim."

I'm not too worried about the ramifications of a fake claim. I'm still alive, one way or another.

Bo, using your flavor name to defend you is dumb AF. With a game as flavorful as this Scum were gonna be given flavor names to CC.

I'm more interested in why ghug didn't receive a flavor name than anything, Ezio. Seems strange that he would immediately assume that whatever his flavor name is or isn't is universal, though. Perhaps he's too lazy to do any actual scumhunting. Perhaps he doesn't want to make himself too visible, which would explain why he watched EOD.

[ghug]

I guess if there are flavor names for some people, bo isn't obvscum.

[thamrick]

Ok clears from d1:
Me, Bozo, Bo sox.
Glad we got that outta the way.

Likely clear:
Vash.


Likely scum:
Durga, Ghug.

Null: Everyone else.

Why is bo_sox clear? He voted himself out of self-pres.

I think he's town. Just curious why you're clearing him. Especially with yav being scum, voting no-lynch to avoid a tie where he'd flip instead of yav could just mean yav had a better role or bo thought yav would survive longer.

[Durga]

Lol Ezio how do you come to that conclusion

Also, does anyone really care about catching scum? Does everyone here have a separate win condition from scum catching? I'm uninspired by this game

[dargorygel]

And why is silent Vash semi-cleared, Ezio?

[dargorygel]

Lol Ezio how do you come to that conclusion

Also, does anyone really care about catching scum? Does everyone here have a separate win condition from scum catching? I'm uninspired by this game

I have no personal win condition. The only person who has announced they have one is Julius Vecna... do you have a win condition?

[Ezio]

I'm pretty into scumhunting at this point and I've done a pretty good job of it.

Tham Bo could have gone after Foxcastle if both he and Yav were scum. Their wagons were tied and he could have easily made that case. Instead he went after Yav, and voted NoLynch rather than fighting hardcore for the lynch.

True he could be next leveling me and just did that move to look townie, but I'm going to continue playing at the level I'm at until I have reason to think we have to go deeper.

[Ezio]

Silent vash is semi-cleared for bringing Yav to tie the vote at 3 between the 3 of them. If Vash doesn't make that vote it's highly unlikely Yav ever gets lynched.
He's only semi-cleared because it was still quite unlikely Yav was actually getting lynched so his vote could simply be scum bussing while trying to gain cred.

[ghug]

So, mafia having day chat generally leads to a ton of D1 bussing because they think they're clever. I kinda want to look at anyone who had strong convictions about yavuz, because I saw nothing in the way of actual compelling reasoning on him, and you all should know that he's always scummy as fuck by now.

Ezio, you're good at scumhunting now? What happened to D1 being useless?

[thamrick]

So, mafia having day chat generally leads to a ton of D1 bussing because they think they're clever. I kinda want to look at anyone who had strong convictions about yavuz, because I saw nothing in the way of actual compelling reasoning on him, and you all should know that he's always scummy as fuck by now.

Ezio, you're good at scumhunting now? What happened to D1 being useless?

I disagree that he's always scummy as fuck. He's erratic af and that leads to him being scumread, but like I said. He doesn't omgus and throw votes around randomly. He was oddly on the defensive this game.

[dargorygel]

So, mafia having day chat generally leads to a ton of D1 bussing because they think they're clever. I kinda want to look at anyone who had strong convictions about yavuz, because I saw nothing in the way of actual compelling reasoning on him, and you all should know that he's always scummy as fuck by now.

Ezio, you're good at scumhunting now? What happened to D1 being useless?

This might also sort of clear rdr and Durga. They both expressed desire to leave the game, and if the scumteam were looking for someone to bus, they would have been top candidates.
Of course, they weren't on a train...

[rdrivera2005]

Great start,catch a scum and have some semi clears.

I have no separate win condition other then catching all scumteam.

[rdrivera2005]

And I really think we should take a look at Bo's wagon tomorrow.

[thamrick]

I'm pretty into scumhunting at this point and I've done a pretty good job of it.

Tham Bo could have gone after Foxcastle if both he and Yav were scum. Their wagons were tied and he could have easily made that case. Instead he went after Yav, and voted NoLynch rather than fighting hardcore for the lynch.

True he could be next leveling me and just did that move to look townie, but I'm going to continue playing at the level I'm at until I have reason to think we have to go deeper.

That's fair. Like I said, I think bo is likely town at this point. I just don't think he can be truly considered "clear" though.

[rdrivera2005]

So, mafia having day chat generally leads to a ton of D1 bussing because they think they're clever. I kinda want to look at anyone who had strong convictions about yavuz, because I saw nothing in the way of actual compelling reasoning on him, and you all should know that he's always scummy as fuck by now.

Ezio, you're good at scumhunting now? What happened to D1 being useless?

This might also sort of clear rdr and Durga. They both expressed desire to leave the game, and if the scumteam were looking for someone to bus, they would have been top candidates.
Of course, they weren't on a train...

I didn't express desire to leave. In fact, I am finding the game funny.

[bo_sox48]

Bozo is 100% clear.

[dargorygel]

So, mafia having day chat generally leads to a ton of D1 bussing because they think they're clever. I kinda want to look at anyone who had strong convictions about yavuz, because I saw nothing in the way of actual compelling reasoning on him, and you all should know that he's always scummy as fuck by now.

Ezio, you're good at scumhunting now? What happened to D1 being useless?

This might also sort of clear rdr and Durga. They both expressed desire to leave the game, and if the scumteam were looking for someone to bus, they would have been top candidates.
Of course, they weren't on a train...

I didn't express desire to leave. In fact, I am finding the game funny.

I stand corrected. I interpreted your statement declaring that the language was a barrier ("I think I don't fit in this game. I am bad at rhymes in Portuguese, in English I just can't do it.") to be a dislike for the game.

[dargorygel]

I wonder what roll Yavu had?

[Ezio]

Sure scum can bus. Note how I didn't say everyone on Bo Sox is town? Scum bussing usually is pretty easy to spot, and sometimes they're going to bus super well and make it hard to catch.
Which votes on Bo would you say looks like a natural bus?

To me it just sounds like you're scum trying to make a bunch of noise and raise suspicion on me hammering out a path for this game to follow that ends in your death.

When did I get good at scumhunting? Idk but sometimes you get lucky and smash.