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Re: M76 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#1441 Post by BesharamSabi » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:49 pm

Thank you to everyone that has given me reads. Need more reads from others plz and ty

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#1442 Post by damo666 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:56 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:44 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:48 am
Hi can everyone share their general reads about people. I'm trying to see something
BesharamSabi - no particularly strong opinions, but I reread after bozo said wolfu's case was interesting and... Sabi doesn't feel too different to me? Everything they're doing feels within expectations? Neon knows Sabi better so I'm going to trust her if she says something might be off. no read, but trusting neon here.

bozotheclown - I was kind of ready to vote bozo, but then he comes along and explains whats been going on in a clear concise way (remniscent of President Eden last game) that is easily understood and makes me all "ohhh", and feels more value-adding than all the survey talk. maybe town? no read?

Bonatogether - related to the above, I was kinda scumreading Bona for some of the same reasons as Sabi was citing, but then Bozo comes along and kinda paints eveyrthing Bona did in a different light, which throws my entire read into a tizzy because I didn't think there was a different light. maybe scum but maybe town?

bo_sox - I barely remember anything bo has said. no read.

damo666 - doing more than last time, I don't know if that's meaningful because we afk killed him D1. null.

dargorygel - I didn't think darg was a good vote D1, but I also couldn't see anything particular that everyone else was. When he said "I crumbed" I read it as "I crumbled" and took it to mean that he choked in some way and gave up when everyone was voting for him, and then I felt really kinda bad about not being able to more strongly push back against voting for him. We'll find out if he's JOAT at EOD.

DemonRHK - some of DemonRHK's actions feel convenient and insincere, particularly positing that I'm "not that smart" for the paladin play then aboutfacing and being "she's a lowkey sociopath". This is is just my interpretation of the intent, but those feel like opposiing views, and that's reminding me of things I found suspicious in Neon last game. Similarly, he was like "damo guilty" then the moment damo townreads he turns around and says he's tunneling and unvotes. Feels very convenient, but I've never seen him play so I don't know if its meaningful. Kinda leaning scum.

Hellenic Riot - feels very solvey in his one big post, but I think his opinion on deathproof is enlightening, because I recall rdr having a similar role last game and thinking it sucked and wrote it off. But the explanation made me realize it was more useful than it looks. Interesting views and ideas. leaning town.

Princess Neon - feels like an entirely different person in this game, strongest townread I have.

pyxxy is feeling a little more towny and participatory than D1, which is in line with what I was expecting based on last game.
Princess Neon wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:09 pm
RagingIke297 - who?
He said like, three things on N1 (actualy six according to the bot), all I remember of them was the emoting at DRHK. No strong opinions at this time? But considering the sub is based on the other player's non presence on the forum for a week (as opposed to Byz or Neon last game), I don't think swinging the sub is a good plan. total null, not enough info.

rdrivera2005 - rdr doesn't feel different from last time, but given rdr's scheduling issues I'm kind of feeling the behavior is NAI at this point? (that said, I kind of want to know where the "if I die, kill bozo or Bo" thing interesting). proabably null?

Tom Bombadil - Despite his activity, I barely remember anything Tom has done and... considering some of the opinions around I think that might be a bad thing? kinda null?

wolfu - wolfu kinda doing therapying, he's offering opinions and rationales for his actions, but I'm not sure what to think

I dunno? am I doing it right? kind of half expect someone to come along and refute everything I said here becauuse all their reads are based in meta I'm not familiar with.
In broad agreement here except Neon. Why strong townread (apart from being 'different')?

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#1443 Post by damo666 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:57 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:49 pm
Thank you to everyone that has given me reads. Need more reads from others plz and ty
Done mine. Would you consider doing Bozo's survey now? Plz and ty.

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#1444 Post by BesharamSabi » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:00 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:44 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:53 am
Remind me tomorrow to analyze the percentage of Bona iso devoted to:
  • asking neon pointless questions
  • being pedantic and asking nonsense questions to wolfu
  • badgering me
  • talking about the nazi game
  • shutting people down when it comes to trying to solve the game
VS actual posts of him solving atp in the game

A better picture at what I'm getting at.
Bona had 93 posts D1 and 43 posts n1:

Out of those posts:
  • 4 were eu4 (2.9%)
  • 22 were fights with neon/me/wolfu (16.2%)
  • 13 were shuts down solving (9.6%)
  • 53 were filler (39.0%)
I can share the work I did but here's the data points.
Bumping this

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#1445 Post by Rumi Tobari » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:03 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:56 pm
In broad agreement here except Neon. Why strong townread (apart from being 'different')?
She was scum last game, and I'd pointed out several times that it only looked like she was contributing when she wasn't. But aside from that, even though she says her town and scum games are the same, I'm not seeing that. I tangibly feel like I'm playing with an entirely different person.

That's not saying much? But considering my only experience with her is with her as scum, I'm willing to townread over it. Expectation bias perhaps?

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#1446 Post by BesharamSabi » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:57 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:49 pm
Thank you to everyone that has given me reads. Need more reads from others plz and ty
Done mine. Would you consider doing Bozo's survey now? Plz and ty.
I did. Not my fault he couldn't find the answers

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#1447 Post by damo666 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:03 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:56 pm
In broad agreement here except Neon. Why strong townread (apart from being 'different')?
She was scum last game, and I'd pointed out several times that it only looked like she was contributing when she wasn't. But aside from that, even though she says her town and scum games are the same, I'm not seeing that. I tangibly feel like I'm playing with an entirely different person.

That's not saying much? But considering my only experience with her is with her as scum, I'm willing to townread over it. Expectation bias perhaps?
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#1448 Post by damo666 » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm

BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:04 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:57 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:49 pm
Thank you to everyone that has given me reads. Need more reads from others plz and ty
Done mine. Would you consider doing Bozo's survey now? Plz and ty.
I did. Not my fault he couldn't find the answers
@Bozo?

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#1449 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:11 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:14 pm
@TomBomb. Thoughts on bozo, further on bona, and on me?
Not worried about you.

No real reason to scumread bozo. Nothing has seemed off to me.

I would vote Bona. I don’t like how he is playing and there is some wagon reasons for the vote since worcej was the desired counterwagon rather than Bona

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#1450 Post by Rumi Tobari » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:19 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:04 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:57 pm


Done mine. Would you consider doing Bozo's survey now? Plz and ty.
I did. Not my fault he couldn't find the answers
@Bozo?
Disagree with everything here. I went back and looked and here's what I think is happening. The closest thing I can locate to any answer is this:
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:31 pm
I wish I had a dayvig
What seems to have occurred is that Sabi thought bozo was asking what we would choose as mafia, and not what we thought the whole scumteam chose, stated what they were chosen. Then has assumed this is a valid answer.

Its possible I missed the answer, but I'm not sure. I don't think it would be too hard for Sabi to go back and quote the post with the response and say "See, I answered" instead of putting the responsibility only on bozo.

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#1451 Post by BesharamSabi » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:26 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:19 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:07 pm
BesharamSabi wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:04 pm


I did. Not my fault he couldn't find the answers
@Bozo?
Disagree with everything here. I went back and looked and here's what I think is happening. The closest thing I can locate to any answer is this:
BesharamSabi wrote:
Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:31 pm
I wish I had a dayvig
What seems to have occurred is that Sabi thought bozo was asking what we would choose as mafia, and not what we thought the whole scumteam chose, stated what they were chosen. Then has assumed this is a valid answer.

Its possible I missed the answer, but I'm not sure. I don't think it would be too hard for Sabi to go back and quote the post with the response and say "See, I answered" instead of putting the responsibility only on bozo.
You're right.

I'm lazy and wanted to fuck with bozo

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#1452 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:46 pm

##vote Bona

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#1453 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:30 pm

@DemonRHK - why did you switch from Bona to worcej at EOD?
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#1454 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:01 pm

Princess Neon wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 4:26 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:02 am
Princess Neon wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:54 am
##VOTE Bona

*insert anime sip gif*
look ma, i'm gonna be the president
I'd vote you for president
8-)

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#1455 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:03 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:18 pm
Also, what do people think about a fun game of swing-the-sub?
dubious at best

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#1456 Post by Princess Neon » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:46 pm
Reads list [sort of - more like notes]

Survey participants

Bozo - nothing apart from survey until recent observations post which I quite liked. The brain kill means a temp pass overall - NULL

Rumi - very like last time so unless cheating with Paladin [very very unlikely] medium/strong TOWNLEAN

Demon - didn't like at first but brain kill gives me doubt also a bit aggressive to be scum - NULL

darg - assume TOWN, self resolves today

Pyx - slight TOWNLEAN

Tom - Temp pass due to brainkill - NULL

rdr - I think the trademark has run its course - slight SCUMLEAN

HR - don't like the fact he's gone missing but still medium TOWNLEAN

Survey non-participants

Sabi - Haven't a clue NULL

Bona - originally a scumread but changed my mind - NULL

Bo - Quiet. Temp pass due to brainkill - NULL

RagingIke - Not said much. I hope he completes survey. - NULL

Neon - I find hard to read. - NULL

Wolfu - Although sounds towny on the face of it seems like a player would be crafty as scum - NULL

Not gonna vote for today - Bozo, Rumi, darg, Pyx, Tom, HR, Bo

This leaves: Demon*, rdr, Sabi, Bona*, Ike, Neon, Wolfu

Willing to vote any of these, with * slightly less so.

As rdr is my only read on the scumside of NULL I will ##vote rdr but I'd rather vote a non-participant. Happy to move later in day to consolidate any on my list. Apologies to the at least 3 non scum out of the seven!
Ah yes that very solid strategy where you ignore the dead and give their entire POE a pass for the day after they died.

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#1457 Post by Princess Neon » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:05 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:20 pm
@Neon - when did your scumread of me begin?
You were NULL moving down yesterday through the night BB dying didn't help. He talked about you a lot and made very solid points.

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#1458 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:08 pm

i don't understand why wolfu has received almost zero flak today

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#1459 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:08 pm

nobody seems to be thinking about them in any capacity

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#1460 Post by wolfu » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:13 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:08 pm
i don't understand why wolfu has received almost zero flak today
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:08 pm
nobody seems to be thinking about them in any capacity
in fairness i'm not sure i understand it either

would you like to give me flak?

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